Skip to 0 minutes and 9 seconds It’s a real pleasure for us to have with us today, Denham Parker. Welcome. Denham is a post-doctoral fellow in the department of biological sciences where he’s researching in fisheries science. Thank you Denham for being here. Thank you very much for having me. We’ve been talking about extinctions and a lot of what we’ve spoken about has to do with extinctions in the terrestrial realm. But I’m wondering what is the effect of high atmospheric carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? How does it actually affect the oceans? Thank you very much. It’s a pleasure to be here. There’s two main effects with the high CO2 in the atmosphere, the effects on the oceans. The first is, obviously, what we call ocean acidification.
Skip to 0 minutes and 58 seconds And that’s a direct effect of CO2 or excess CO2 in the ocean. And what we’re finding is that the oceans are essentially large carbon sinks for CO2. So, the oceans absorb about a third of the carbon dioxide that humans make. Really. And that really leads to an astronomical number of about 20 million tonnes of CO2 per day. So that’s huge. So when it absorbs all the CO2, there’s a change in the chemistry of the ocean and mainly it becomes more acidic. It turns into carbonic acid. And that effects a particular group of species call the calcifiers. And the calcifiers are a species that really need to lay down a hard exoskeleton.
Skip to 1 minute and 38 seconds So we’re talking about things like clams, and mussels, and lobsters, etcetera. And they need carbonate ions to be able to lay these things down. And with the change in chemistry, those ions are no longer available. And that means that they need more energy to lay down these exoskeletons. And sometimes the exoskeletons are thinner and more fragile. And the effects on that, those particular groups of species, is large. The second effect is something called coral bleaching and this is a direct effect of the increase of the temperature of the ocean. We see the greenhouse gasses, or the increase of CO2 increases the temperature of the atmosphere and so does it increase the temperature of the oceans. And coral bleaching.
Skip to 2 minutes and 21 seconds Essentially corals are made up of two organisms. You have the coral polyp and you have the zooxanthellae, which is a single cell… Single cell algae, as such. And that’s what makes up the colour of the coral. It gives them those beautiful colours. And when the temperatures, when you have prolonged increased temperatures, that symbiotic relationship that those two organisms have, breaks down. And the coral polyp essentially expels the zooxanthellae. And therefore we get the coral bleaching. It loses… The corals tend to lose their colours. So those are the direct effects. Obviously we know what happens on the corals, and we know what happens to the calcifiers. What we really struggle to understand is the broad scale effect of this.
Skip to 3 minutes and 3 seconds How does this effect the ecology of the ocean on a global scale? And that really is where we struggle to predict what the effects are going to be. So in terms of extinctions of organisms themselves, I mean, how do we see the extinctions in, the sixth extinction, in the oceans? I mean, is it the same as it is in terrestrial environments? So, for example, if you compare fresh water environments versus marine environments. Fresh water environments and marine environments in terms of extinction rates, differ significantly. What we find in the fresh water environment is that there’s a very high extinction rate. In fact, it is the highest that we’ve seen in all the environments at the moment. Particularly fresh water fish.
Skip to 3 minutes and 47 seconds We find that about 36% of all fresh water fish at the moment are threatened or vulnerable. Is that because of pollution? Or what is causing it? What is the main driver for these extinctions? It’s mainly habitat modification. And unfortunately the fresh water environment suffers from something called island biogeography, or insular biogeography. Where the ecology of a fresh water system is so different to its surrounding ecology because it’s surrounded by a terrestrial environment. That these organisms are essentially stuck on that island of fresh water. So if there’s any disturbance in that fresh water, they either have to be able to take that disturbance or they actually end up dying, because they can’t move away from it.
Skip to 4 minutes and 29 seconds And that really increases the extinction rates in the fresh water. In contrast, what we see in the marine environment is that it’s a very fluid and expansive environment. So, there’s no physical boundaries as such. So if you see a disturbance in an area, the species can literally move away from that. And that’s a big difference. But one thing, when you talk about marine extinctions, that you really have to understand, is that the marine environment is largely undiscovered when compared to the terrestrial environment. And we’ve estimated that there’s roughly about 1.9 million species that we’ve discovered in the marine environment. But we’ve also estimated that there are possibly nine million species out there.
Skip to 5 minutes and 15 seconds So the question is, you don’t know what you’ve lost, if you never know what you’ve had in the first place. So it’s largely an underestimate. We probably have around 20 extinctions in the marine environment. A lot of them are mammals, or seabirds that depend on the land, to some extent, and air-breathing. And only two marine fish that are documented to have gone extinct. But we know that over-fishing, for example, is putting a lot of stress on many populations of fish. I mean, are there particular fish that are being threatened, or on the endangered list that we need to be more careful about? Yes, over-fishing obviously plays a massive role.
Skip to 5 minutes and 56 seconds We’re altering the habitat, or we’re altering the ecology of the ocean in a huge way. So it’s very devastating. But, I must stress that over-fishing hasn’t led to an increase in extinction rate of fish. And there’s a number of reasons for this. The first is biological and has to do with a fecundity of fish. Which is the potential of a fish to reproduce. Any one average fish in a marine environment could possibly produce tens of thousands of eggs in a single… At a time, yes. Yes. So that really creates resilience against going extinct, because a small amount of the population can really sustain an entire population if they’re reproductively active.
Skip to 6 minutes and 39 seconds The second is something to do with a more economic scale. It’s called the Gordon-Schaefer Model which basically describes the relationship between the cost-benefit analysis of a fishery. And what that basically says is that it’s too expensive to fish a species to the last fishery. So the fishery collapses, or the fishery closes down, before you’re able to actually fish it to the last fish. So that means that the fish are able, or the fishery stops, before the fish goes extinct. So, but… I’m sure that there are many people out there wondering, you know, if we can actually think about commercial farming of fishes, rather than actually catching fish wild.
Skip to 7 minutes and 25 seconds I mean, you know, to prevent over-harvesting, or to try and eat wisely. I mean, is there ways in which people can do these things? Yes, definitely. I think what we need to understand is that the consumers play a massive role in this. The consumers really hold the power to determine what the future of fishing and over-fishing looks like in the world. If you decide not to support an unsustainable practice, that practice should eventually not be viable. But in terms of what we need to focus on at the moment, I think is largely awareness. Awareness on two fronts. Awareness as a seafood consumer. And awareness as an ocean user, someone like a fisherman.
Skip to 8 minutes and 6 seconds In terms of a seafood consumer, you really need to know what you’re eating, how sustainably that’s harvested, and where it comes from. And there are a number of Apps and such out there that that help you do this. Globally there is the MSC, which is the Marine Stewardship Council, which goes to all these fisheries and basically audits them in terms of their sustainability, and then they get certified if they pass the audit. So if you buy fish, it’ll have a certain stamp on it? Yes, it will have an MSC certified stamp on it. So those are the products that you should be looking for and possibly making your choices, for.
Skip to 8 minutes and 43 seconds Locally, in South Africa we have something called SASSI, which is the South African Seafood Sustainability Initiative. And that categorises every single species into one of three categories, red, orange and green. Green obviously being your most sustainable so that’s really what you want to be going for. Orange you should possibly think twice about buying and red is completely no take. No, no. Yes. So you want to be avoiding red listed species. And that’s a very simple, but very effective way of giving consumers an idea of what choices they should be making and driving a more sustainable fishery in the future. And then in terms of an ocean user.
Skip to 9 minutes and 18 seconds So a fisherman for example, there are a number of regulations out there that you need to adhere to. And these include bag limits, how many fish are you allowed to catch in a single day? What is the minimum size for that particular species? And when am I allowed to catch these fish? And these are all there to promote sustainability of the recreational fishery. So you need to be aware of those regulations and you need to adhere to them. And I think if we could get those two areas of awareness right, we really could promote sustainable fishing in the future. Wonderful. Denham thank you very much for being with us here.
Skip to 9 minutes and 53 seconds It’s been such a pleasure talking to you and I think all the people that have registered for this course have learned so much about extinctions, both in the fresh water as well as in marine environments. And I think our concluding remarks about, you know, what people themselves can do to make a difference in terms of good habits for sustainable fisheries, is just wonderful. So, thank you so much. It’s a pleasure.
Threats to aquatic life
I interviewed postdoctoral researcher, Dr Denham Parker, who studies fisheries science about human impacts on aquatic biodiversity. Dr Parker explained how modern climate change was causing two direct problems for the marine environment - ocean acidification (from increasing carbon dioxide) and coral bleaching (from increased temperatures). Our lack of knowledge of oceans also means we are not aware what impacts we are having, or even which species have become extinct.
Fresh water environments are even more vulnerable to habitat disturbance because of their geographical isolation from other bodies of water - they are like islands of water surrounded by land. About 36% of all freshwater fish at the moment are threatened or vulnerable.