Skip to 0 minutes and 10 secondsCRAIG HASSED: Now what we're going to explore, just briefly, in this video is some of the caveats on mindfulness practice. So we're entering into a mindfulness program in this online program. And so there are some cautions. And some of them, of course, have been in the media. And it's important to just make a few notes about what they are. Now mindfulness has been found to be helpful for a whole range of problems and improving performance, but certainly dealing with stress and depression and so on. And you'll be exploring some of the studies that have looked at that and some of the evidence.
Skip to 0 minutes and 44 secondsBut when we're entering into mindfulness, like perhaps exercise, it's good for everybody, but not everybody is going to get benefit from it. For example, some people may not be motivated or interested to practice it. Some people might have some incorrect notions about mindfulness and, therefore, perhaps come into it with an attitude of bias. Some people might know that it's going to be helpful for them but won't necessarily practice, and they won't get benefit from it either. And sometimes too, we can be learning mindfulness, but not being well taught, and practicing what we're thinking is mindfulness in all good faith, but we're not actually practicing it. So we won't necessarily get any benefit from that as well.
Skip to 1 minute and 28 secondsBut there are a couple of caveats, I think, that are probably worth noting. And perhaps we can divide these into very common things that happen when we're learning mindfulness and perhaps some of the less common things, but more of a concern. Perhaps, Richard, would you like to talk about some of the really common things that can be uncomfortable when learning mindfulness?
Skip to 1 minute and 47 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: Certainly. One of the most important things to recognize, Craig, is that mindfulness is actually about getting more in touch with what's really going on in each moment. And so while that sometimes means that we get our attention out of all the busy, stressful thoughts and into the present moment and, therefore, means that we relax and calm down and feel good-- which is actually quite a common consequence of practicing mindfulness. Sometimes it means that we get in touch with things that we may not have been aware of or have may even been avoiding.
Skip to 2 minutes and 17 secondsCRAIG HASSED: So our stress could become more obvious to us.
Skip to 2 minutes and 20 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: Absolutely. If we're stressed, if we're anxious, if we got tension in the body, or physical discomfort, or pain.
Skip to 2 minutes and 27 secondsCRAIG HASSED: Notice that the mind's more distractible than we actually realized.
Skip to 2 minutes and 30 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: Well, that's one of the first things that happens. People realize just how busy their mind is actually. And it almost seems like, oh, this might be making it worse. But it's not. It's just showing us what's already happening.
Skip to 2 minutes and 38 secondsCRAIG HASSED: Turning lights on to something that was happening in the dark, kind of thing.
Skip to 2 minutes and 40 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: That's right. And certainly, if there are experiences like certain thoughts or emotions that we have been sort of trying to avoid or not aware of, we actually become more aware of that. So early on, that can be one of the really sort of common experiences of practicing mindfulness.
Skip to 2 minutes and 53 secondsCRAIG HASSED: So it's not always going to be comfortable or easy.
Skip to 2 minutes and 55 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: No.
Skip to 2 minutes and 56 secondsCRAIG HASSED: And if we come into it with an assumption that it's meant to be, then we might be quite quickly disappointed.
Skip to 3 minutes and 0 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: That's right.
Skip to 3 minutes and 2 secondsCRAIG HASSED: But I dare say, it's learning how to work with those things that's the learning of mindfulness.
Skip to 3 minutes and 5 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: That's exactly right. So we practice a non-judgmental awareness. And sometimes that non-judgment sort of lags a little bit behind the awareness. But the practice of mindfulness is to notice what's happening and just to be with it as it is and make space for it.
Skip to 3 minutes and 17 secondsCRAIG HASSED: Yes. And those very common things that are sometimes, I think, incorrectly labeled as adverse events-- so it might be uncomfortable. Like, if we're getting back to exercise after a long layoff, we might notice that we've got a few aching muscles the next day. And that's not an adverse event. That's just a sign that work is taking place. And it comes with the territory.
Skip to 3 minutes and 41 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: That's right. There are, of course, some more serious adverse events that have been reported in the literature, so you might want to mention some of them.
Skip to 3 minutes and 48 secondsCRAIG HASSED: Yes. And they tend to be very uncommon, more anecdotal, single case reports. For example, if somebody might have a disposition to, say, mental illness and does a very intensive retreat that they're not practiced for-- like running a marathon when you're not really properly trained up for it. Or perhaps it wouldn't be appropriate for your state. Then sometimes that can trigger a real adverse event.
Skip to 4 minutes and 16 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: Yes.
Skip to 4 minutes and 17 secondsCRAIG HASSED: Trigger an episode of a mental health problem. Now that's not what we're going to be doing on this particular course. But it is important to note that if a person's going to consider doing a very intensive silent retreat, it needs to be appropriate and get some appropriate advice for that. And probably, another couple of contraindications as well is if in the acute stage of a severe depression or perhaps a background of psychosis, then you need to be getting some advice and close supervision from a well-trained mental health professional who has significant experience in mindfulness. Now mindfulness can help. But knowing how to guide one through that is very important.
Skip to 5 minutes and 3 secondsAnd in the pits of a deep depression, for example, it's not an easy time or necessarily appropriate to be learning mindfulness at that time.
Skip to 5 minutes and 10 secondsRICHARD CHAMBERS: No. There's a study that's been commonly talked about, by Shapiro and some colleagues, that sort of identified some adverse events when people do mindfulness retreats. But actually, if you look closely at the study, those adverse events were happening before the people actually started the retreat. So again, it's very important to proceed slowly, not to do too much too quickly, to obviously seek professional medical advice if you're not sure about your mental state before doing a longer retreat. And as you said, if anything uncomfortable happens that becomes persistent, you might want to seek out the advice of a very experienced meditation teacher with-- or mindfulness teacher with mental health experience and/or a mental health professional.
Advice about mindfulness
Watch Craig and Richard chat about some of the things you should consider before you start practising mindfulness.
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