Skip to 0 minutes and 6 secondsEMMETT SULLIVAN: When we're talking about defending Britain during the Cold War period during the 1950s, we're moving fairly rapidly from the idea of aircraft with cannons to aircraft with missiles; and then, eventually, the development of surface-to-air missiles-- SAMs-- like the Bloodhound missile behind us. Now this was designed to shoot down long-range Soviet bombers at equal long range-- I think up to 80 miles away that it could take down an aircraft. Now we have issues about how you appropriately defend firstly the V-Force, which the Bloodhound was here principally to do. And then when the strategic nuclear deterrent gets moved to the Royal Navy, we find Bloodhounds deployed to Germany to help defend the, if you like, the NATO central front line.

Skip to 0 minutes and 59 secondsThere is a fad in the 1950s and through to the early 1960s of moving away from cannons, and even moving away from aircraft, and becoming a country and an air force which is depending on missiles. Now there's a retreat from that position. But Ross, if we're talking about the Cold War, and even now in the first part of the 21st century, is that fad for missiles only in terms of defending airspace? Has that been retrenched? Or now is that fad moving into different instruments, such as drones, for example?

Skip to 1 minute and 37 secondsROSS MAHONEY: It's a difficult thing to answer. I mean is it a fad? It's a recognition that technology is moving on in the 1950s when you see increasing missiles. It increasingly becomes clear that missiles-only is not the way to go. I mean, from the perspective of aircraft, you only have to look at the American experience in Vietnam with the early versions of the F-4 Phantom which lacks a cannon, lacks a gun. They suffer quite quickly in terms of combat. It gets lesser aircraft that the North Vietnamese are equipped with. In terms of surface-to-air missiles, it becomes increasingly clear that they're part of a multilayered aerial defence system. So you can't separate surface-to-air missiles from air defence QRA with aircraft.

Skip to 2 minutes and 22 secondsThey're part of a combined system. We increasingly, certainly in the British case, less and less surface-to-air missiles in RAF service. Today is that being replaced with drones, or remotely piloted aerial systems? Again no. Again, there's very much a recognition that certainly for the moment, drones or RPAS are not going to completely replace manned aircraft. In a very simple way, if you look at transport aircraft a simple question, if you put it in the civilian perspective-- would you get on an airliner with no pilot? The psychological answer is no. Does that mean that you can't control the aircraft? Well, yeah, you can control the aircraft remotely, but you wouldn't do it. Similarly with fighter aircraft.

Skip to 3 minutes and 6 secondsThe situational awareness offered by a pilot sat in the seat flying next to, in the Cold War period, TU-95 Bear, a maritime patrol version, going up and down the North Sea. Even today we're seeing the Russians doing that recently. The affordability of having a pilot in the seat who can make the decision on the spot is still there. So it's not so much a fad as an increasing awareness that these systems need to and must operate together provided a group synergy. And I think that's what happens in the 1960s. There is the sudden "fad," for lack of a better description, of we'll go to missile defence. Then there is a realisation that they're not the answer.

Skip to 3 minutes and 51 secondsThey're not the complete solution. That actually what you needed was a much more complex solution than what was perceived to be a more efficient way of defending the UK. But that simply wasn't the case.

Skip to 4 minutes and 1 secondEMMETT SULLIVAN: OK, Ross. Thank you for that. Just two points around this. Clearly surface-to-air missiles and the development of them in the Soviet Union changes the role that the V-Force in particular performs, because they could no longer be a high-flying strategic bombing force, as the technology the Soviets developed became more advanced. So it's a little bit of tit for tat on both sides in that regard.

Skip to 4 minutes and 28 secondsROSS MAHONEY: Yeah, you always have the technological innovations on both sides that do affect strategy. Strategy as a concept is very conceptual, but when technology changes, it can have an impact on the ways and means of achieving your strategic ends. The means of doing that changes because technology changes. To borrow a phrase, the logical strategy adjustment, that the grammar of it can-- that the means changes. And of course the major change there is that we go from aircraft armed with nuclear weapons, or standoff nuclear weapons, because the RAF maintains a nuclear role up until very recently-- to the Polaris missile and the sea-based nuclear deterrent.

Skip to 5 minutes and 16 secondsBut of course, in between all of that, the RAF do experiment with intermediate ballistic missiles. So there is a missile aspect to all of this as well-- the introduction of the Douglas Thor for four years as part of the nuclear deterrent.

Skip to 5 minutes and 32 secondsEMMETT SULLIVAN: OK, Ross. Thank you for that. Let's move on and consider other ways in which the Royal Air Force helped defend Great Britain during the Cold War.

Aircraft versus missiles

Missiles only

When we came to consider this topic, we rather stripped down our discussion to the following statement:

  • Has the fad for ‘missiles only’ gone away; or has it been replaced by a fascination with drones?

Neither Ross or myself saw much merit in the late-1950s and 1960s concentration on missile technology to the exclusion of guns and cannon. A mixed armoury always seemed more sensible in maintaining the capabilities of aircraft. Hence the ‘fad’ comment.

However, this point was not conclusively rejected by the RAF even ten years ago:

‘The RAF has been forced into an embarrassing U-turn on its policy of not allowing pilots of the new Eurofighter Typhoon to fire their gun. … The decision follows experience in Afghanistan showing that guns are still one of the most effective weapons when supporting ground troops. In a scathing e-mail, a Parachute Regiment major commanding an isolated outpost described air support from RAF Harriers, which have no guns and rely on rockets, as “utterly, utterly useless”. He contrasted their performance with the support offered by US air force A10 aircraft, which are equipped with a 27mm (sic) rotary cannon.”

‘Typhoon wins gun dogfight’, The Daily Telegraph, 3 October 2006. (The A-10’s Avenger cannon is, of course, a 30mm Gatling gun.) However, the F-35Bs Lightning II that the RAF is buying, as with the Harrier IIs whose role they will principally replace, do not have internal cannons – both aircraft needed cannon pods added to their fuselage.

The Americans probably went the furthest with the concept of the anti-aircraft missile, adding nuclear warheads to the Bomarc and Falcon missiles, and the Genie rocket. You can read more on these developments in the 1950s here.

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