Massimo Grassi
Massimo Grassi, head of the Experimental Psychology division of the
Italian Association of Psychology. He published more than fifty papers
on auditory perception, cognition and their relationship.
Location Italy
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Massimo Grassi replied to Brian Sharpe
@TamaraShusterman I'm sure high level performers and composers may indeed find several connections across senses.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ludo Hellemans
@AnneO'Mahony this is definitely a possibility
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@MichelaZappaterra potrebbe essere un buon suggerimento visto che la musica si puo' trasformare anche in una attività sociale. In genere, la musica è una bella attività: si impara qualcosa che ci si porta sempre con sé, che si può declinare per proprio piacere oppure in compagnia.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Massimo Grassi
@MichelaZappaterra sicuramente, la velocità di apprendimento nei giovani è un fattore importante. Ma c'è anche il fatto che far fare attività musicale coincide a far fare "più scuola". E fare più scuola coincide solitamente con migliori prestazioni intellettive. Ecco. La spiegazione più accreditata al momento è questa.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ludo Hellemans
@JaneCooper perhaps they feel the driver is calm! :-) Or they like the motion of the car. Who knows!
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@JaneCooper partly. Although, the latest studies suggest that music tend to improve music skills (in particular) and music-similar tasks. The more you go far from music, the more the positive effects of music disappear.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Massimo Grassi
@JaneCooper the explanation scientists support is actually another one: this young-age advantage is more due to the socioeconomic status of the family that stimulates the child with several activities, including music.
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This is very true. The amount of proper experimental studies is far too limited. Unfortunately they are long and expensive.
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There is a lot of work that has to be done before giving and answer.
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This is a good point. I do not know studies with a follow up test.
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Well, partly true. Even when you offer a possible treatment, the number of dropouts is often high. Because practicing regularly (like in training) is hard and fatiguing!
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I support your same idea :-)
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I do not think so, unfortunately.
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This may be a possible explanation although test are (if you zoom out) not so different.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ruth Estrella-Pinto
I pinned your comment.
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This is definitely something missing in the current literature. Musicians are compared with nonmusicians but in several cases it would be nice to add a third group of experts. Like chess players, sport players, or others.
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Some type of music training (in particular rhythm) seems to have beneficial effect on some language activities.
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I don't know :-)
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Indeed, if playing has an effect, it depends on the specific instrument and context. For example, as far as auditory perception is concerned, in general musicians are better pitch discriminators than nonmusicians. However, among musicians, violinists are by far the best ones.
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This sounds interesting. Can we expect the same (for example) in football players or any other team sport?
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Indeed, bridging the two is rather complex. But it has been done.
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Some think that music (in comparison to other activities) has several interesting sides: practising motor skills, learning a new language, working together etc.
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Many say that Gardners intelligences are talents (and not intelligences).
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Massimo Grassi replied to Sandra S
There are studies that show a memory advantage of musicians in comparison tu nonmusicians.
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@AnnetteCox I'm sorry, no :-)
here I talk about the two major attempts (thus far) to connect music and intelligence. The first was the attempt to connect music listening and intelligence (ie the Mozart effect). And it is definitely more a failure than a success. The second was the attempt to connect music playing with intelligence. This seemed a more... -
Massimo Grassi replied to Ludo Hellemans
@LudoHellemans some bird chirping may sound melody like. Whales, I heard them, they were not sounding so musical.
But if we flip the coin and play animals our human music, they seem generally not interested in it. -
@LudoHellemans the Mozart effect is a little effect so that it is often difficult to observe it. You can see it "on average" over a group of people, and even in that case it is not a strong effect. At the individual level you may not observe it.
In our lab (for example) we tried a couple of times to run experiments in the Mozart effect and both times we did...
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@LudoHellemans sorry. at first I read "pressure" and not "pleasure" :-)
I re-write my response.
What you are talking about is "personality". And indeed personality may play a role in this. For example, recent works by Schellenberg suggest that the reason why musicians tend to perform better then nonmusicians in some cognitive task is because they tend to be... -
Massimo Grassi replied to Evelyn M
Mozart effect: you may not observe it. it is a small effect!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ludo Hellemans
Super complex topic. And very difficult answer. I add just a couple of facts. In general, animals seems uninterested in music (this is what research is showing). Therefore, it seems a human product. Second, it is true that "music is a universal language" (to some extent). In general, there are four categories of music we recognize independently of our music...
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Of course there is not a single good recipe for every person and occasion. Definitely you can use music (also) to cover the background noise you do not like.
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Binaural beats?
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We use music as an "emotion modulator".
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The way you use music is definitely what the majority of people do. It is interesting this figure/ground segregation of music. It happens in vision too.
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I always do! :-)
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The Mozart effect has been investigated in a variety of conditions and with a variety of populations. Somehow unfortunately (in my opinion). Because in the end the effect is small and it did not deserve so much research-effort and attention.
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Potentially yes. But up to a certain point. Any human performance has an intrinsic variability.
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This is an interesting question. The reason why we often end on Mozart is quite mysterious.
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Many musics can boost your mood! And much of the boosting effect depends on your music preferences. In general (for example) when you are teenager you do not like much classical music :-)
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Massimo Grassi replied to Evelyn M
This is what now we believe!
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The task is in the next lesson.
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The experiment is in the next lesson.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ludo Hellemans
Correct. Many things that "intelligence" has changed to something more abstract in the recent years.
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There is not yet something called "musical intelligence". In the majority of cases, we talk about aptitude or talent.
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Definitely, intelligence does need good health conditions to develop.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Evelyn M
Correct. Results should be explained carefully.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Evelyn M
It means that intelligence unfold in many different ways!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ammara Noor
Indeed education has an effect on intelligence.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Anne O'Shea
Correct.
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In part things are correlated. It means that if you are good in one test, you are also good in another and all the remaining test. As far as memory is concerned, it is definitely part of intelligence. Think about a person with zero memory. This person would not be able to make any complex reasoning in his mind.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ammara Noor
Intelligence tests require many different things. One bad score doesn't mean bad all the way through.
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However, that ability (ie the ability to solve problems, pass exams and so on) is often correlated with many good things.
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It is indeed and interesting (contemporary) story.
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I agree. I appreciated, however, the original idea of France to spot children that were poor at school to help them. Well ahead of their time.
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It was extremely important. It was the real "start" of intelligence tests how we see them today.
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I agree: ethics cannot be forgotten.
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I guess the main limitation of Galton was the lack of ethics :-)
Then, of course, hypothesis and theories can be wrong. But you cannot blame a person because his hypothesis was wrong. -
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According to Gardner, no.
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I agree on the first part. But if personality comes into play... I don't know.
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I do not know if there are studies that correlate intelligence with personality. It may be a good idea.
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Mmmmm.. Good point. But I don't know if there is an official definition of talent.
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Also problem solving sometimes.
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Are you sure? Passion in "intelligence"? Why? I'm not saying it is wrong. I just want to know why :-)
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Are you sure? Passion in "intelligence"? Why? I'm not saying it is wrong. I just want to know why :-)
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Massimo Grassi replied to Liz W
Of course, Boring gave a provocative definition.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Marilyn Cule
I agree.
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Becase often the various elements are correlated. You are good in one, you are good in the other.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ammara Noor
I partially agree. The "long" definition I think does define intelligence. It is long, I agree, but intelligence has not a simple definition.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Cristina Di Zio
I guess top politicians do need to have high intelligence, at least verbal.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Zachariah Johnson
Sinatra and intelligence: is the first time I hear this. I'm not saying that Sinatra was stupid. I'm saying that I heard the name of Sinatra associated with music, women, money, even mafia, but not intelligence :-)
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Massimo Grassi replied to Patricia Cano
Definitely, Marx had a "long view". Many of his predictions actually became reality many years later.
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Why?
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Massimo Grassi replied to Marilyn Cule
Why?
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Massimo Grassi replied to Liz W
@LudoHellemans as far as I know, emotional intelligence (that is the ability to deal with emotions, the one you feel and the ones you see in other people) is still a young construct.
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Massimo Grassi replied to Anne O'Shea
Knowledge is definitely part of intelligence. In fact, intelligence tests do ask you also questions that imply "knowledge".
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ammara Noor
Mmmmm. He is definitely rich (but I guess that if you want to arrive to that level, you need to be smart :-))
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Massimo Grassi replied to Annette Cox
In general, scientists that study intelligence keep separated "intelligence" and "emotional intelligence".
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Massimo Grassi replied to Marilyn Cule
Welcome Marilyn!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Evelyn M
@EvelynM Welcome Evelyn!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Evelyn M
@IsabelBonnett Welcome Isabel!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Oluwatumininu Fagbola
Welcome Tumininu!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Jphn Dreyfuss
Welcome John!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Lisa Barker-Jessop
Welcome Lisa!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Patricia Cano
Welcome Patricia!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Liz W
Welcome Liz!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Zachariah Johnson
Welcome Zack!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Anne Maina
Welcome Anne!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ludo Hellemans
Welcome Ludo!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Ammara Noor
Welcome Ammara!
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Massimo Grassi replied to lucia riedemann
Welcome Lucia!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Anne O'Shea
Welcome Anne!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Annette Cox
Welcome Annette!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Nehl Mahmood Ghani
Welcome Nehl!
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@ChiaraPernechele ok. I understand.!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Susan Scothern
@KatsoBusang Grazie!
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Massimo Grassi replied to Jill Cropley
@NatashaBeaulieu this is what usually people experience :-) I'm exactly on your same line.
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@InduAshcharyaa These are very complex questions indeed! :-)
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@LizW it depends. Note that in general, in the Mozart effect, you play the music before and you perform the test later. It acts like a pill. As far as background music is concerned, the affect of music really depends on several factor: you like music in general as a background (there are individual differences), if the music is loud (eg loud music is in...
