Veena Rodrigues
Emeritus Professor of Public Health & Medical Education, Norwich Medical School, UEA.
Lifelong Learner; Supervisor & Mentor; 'early adopter'; and advocate of pedagogy before technology.
Location University of East Anglia, Norwich, Norfolk, UK
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How do you assess learning gain of your patients?
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Could you explain this please?
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Thank you for sharing that example. Has this change you made helped?
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Have you identified any learning needs for your own PDP from thsi week's learning?
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Thank you for your reflections. I am pleased that for many of you found the various reflective practice frameworks helpful. Why don't you give them a try and see how you get on. Or try a different framework from your current one and see if it is any different.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Welcome everybody and hope you find this course useful and engaging.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to John Gates
Thank you John. I will sahre this with the team.
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Thanks Kathleen. It would be really tricky to enforce engagement in this way as MOOCs by their nature are completely open access and identified by learners. We believe that learners who particpate and engage with the discussion boards fully get much more out of the course.
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There are four courses in this set and across these, we have tried to use various examples so that the principles could be extended to all healthcare professions.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Deborah Jallow
I think the generic principles could be extended to all settings. Let us know how you get on.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Keith Portman
Please see response to @sonalshah below. In addition, hopefully you reinforced your learning.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Sonal Shah
Perhaps you are an experienced supervisor? Maybe the newer supervisors would benefit from your experience shared in the discussion boards. This would also allow you to practice supporting/ advising others?
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Thanks Ian. We have another course in this set (Clinical Supervision with Confidence) where we focus one week on the struggling learner and what you can do to support them. We have tried hard not to duplicate content across courses.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to John Gates
Thank you for taking the time to give us this constructive feedback. I will discuss with the course team to identify areas to work on for the next run (hopefully).
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
I am so pleased that you decided to join this course. It has been set up so that you can interact with each other and get more out of the course in this way. I hope you find the material useful.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Thank you so much for your kind comments and feedback. I will share this with the course team. We have three more Clinical Supervision courses in this set if you are interested in further training.
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Yes, perhaps reflecting on your past experiences of being taught or teaching others in the light of new knowledge and skills would be helpful.
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You might wish to join our Clinical Supervision with Confidence MOOC which is one of the four courses in this set. There are some general principles we cover there that you might find helpful.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Even though each of our contexts might be different the same prnciples would apply. Patient safety comes first. Then assess all available options and pick the one that is fair and accessible to all. Why not get the trainees themselves to come up with a workable solution? This would also get their commitment and full ownership.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
I have read all your posts with interest. You have all made good points about things that need to be considered before making judgements about trainees (or students or junior colleagues for that matter). Always consider each trainee's learning needs after assessing their level of performance. If you think it is slightly lower than expected, make a concrete...
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Very interesting posts, thank you! One thing COVID has taught us is how to deliver education differently. So where this might not have been possible previously, most organisations have now found ways to make this happen. So, if the training was recorded, it can be viewed later by those not able to attend. Obviously this might not possible for all types of...
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
So pleased to see you on this course. Do take time to work through it and read/ interact with other learner posts. Let me know if you have specific queries that are not addressed.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Thanks everybody. We have other courses in this set so do try them out if you wish. These were created in a pre-COVID world but still remain highly relevant.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
I think that when you start trying to reflect on action, initially, it is really useful to write it up using a reflective practice framework. With practice, it is possible to make mental notes but of course there is no record to go back to if you want to review it. Try to pick things that made a positive or negative impact on you so you can work through what...
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Thank you for your feedback - much appreciated. In today's busy world, it is easy to forget about the value of reflective practice for personal and professional development and quality improvement.
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Why don't you share with us a SMART learning objective you have created for your PDP?
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Hi everybody, I hope that irrespective of your current experience, you will all find something useful to take away from this course.
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Is there any particular reason why you stopped using SWOT analysis?
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Taher Esmail
Do you have a role teaching other educators? Then this course will be great for your CPD! :)
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Carolyn McCaughan
Do you have to get it agreed with your manager?
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Georgina G
Can you choose what you include in your CPD & if so, how do you decide what to include each year?
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Gladys Sambo
How do you decide what you need to include in your CPD?
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Welcome to the course everybody. I am excited about interacting with you all!
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As you have all identified, good communication; formative assessment and constructive feedback; and early identification and management of any concerns, are the cornerstone of good supervision.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Our course team are really grateful for your feedback. It helps us when we evaluate each course run so we can check if need to tweak anything. I hope you are all able to apply the new knowledge gained and develop the skills needed by supervisors.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Nitesh Bargaje
This is decided by HEE Faculty of Educators but to the best of my knowledge, you would need to attend the face to face/online course created specifically for clinical supervisors. We have delivered these face to face pre-COVID but hear that they are being offered online only for now.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Daniel Helme
I think what you are alluding to is when the questioner crosses that fine line between constructive and helpful to learning by humiliation. So, what you ask is as important as how you ask it. A tiny amount of stress is helpful and constructive but when the anxiety/stress created increases to high levels it can be destructive.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Reema Katira
Trainee today, supervisor tomorrow. Use your new knowledge to make sure you get the best out of your current supervisors! They might also need refreshers from time to time? :)
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
On behalf of the course team, thank you for taking the time to give us feedback - we are delighted that you found the course useful and enjoyable.
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Glad to hear this. Try to apply the knowledge in your workplace while it is fresh in your mind. Do tell others about the course if you found it useful.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Ragunath Durairajan
This is very true but what about patient safety when we sign off a clinician as having achieved all learning outcomes when we actually know there is a problem? I do realise that it needs confidence building for supervisors to do this in a helpful and meaningful way so that the learner is given an opportunity to remediate.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Thanks for your feedback everybody. I am really pleased to hear that its going well for you. I hope the other two weeks content/discussions are also useful to you.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
I'm glad you all agree that this was not an ideal feedback encounter. Yet, its shocking to hear that this does often occur, sometimes because of lack of time when this is treated as a tick box exercise.
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@DebLinsky Love it! Being proactive about the way these are conducted is definitely the way forward. Your idea about the journal is also good to develop their reflective practice skills, insight and ability to self-assess own progress.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
If you are just starting this course or yet to finish it, please do carry on at your own pace. Due to annual leave, I have not been able to interact with you much in the second week but will keep an eye on the discussions and join you from time to time. Our course on assessment & feedback has started this week in case it is of any interest to you.
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You will get some of this here but we also have another course in this set (just ended) which discusses models for giving feedback.
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while some aspects of this course might be related, this course is not really about clinical management i.e. of patients. It is more about how you can assess and give feedback to your students or trainees (or junior colleagues maybe).
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Sorry, this is confusing. I wonder if you've got the course mixed up with another one?
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Do you have any tips to share with new supervisors on how to make WPBAs work for them?
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How do you ensure that they lead to learning rather than as a tick box for proof?
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Welcome to the course everybody and hope you find it interesting and enjoyable.
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@KrisNeo Excellent! So you are getting them to develop insight but also to take ownership of their development needs.
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@VictoriaLeather Let us know how it goes. If this is part of establishing the need for clinical supervision my other bit of advice to you would be that the restorative element is not forgotten in trying to get the normative and formative elements (Proctors model) embedded.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to Norelle Cottee
Agree. Remember that all HCPs have this as part of their roles after graduation and suddenly it gets very daunting! But you are here, so you have shown commitment and engagement - all bodes well for your learners!
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Yes, I agree. Choose the model depending on your context.
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Immediate (timely) feedback is ideal and if it is delivered constructively, it could help learning and prevent this occurring in future maybe.
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Can you tell us a bit about the SNAPPS protocol please?
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
In addition to getting the training needed to provide the role, there is also a need for refresher training. Things change with time so as healthcare professionals, if you are delivering this role then you do need continuing professional development in relation to it.
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Hi everybody, in case you have just joined the course, welcome! I look forward to interacting with you in the next 2 weeks.
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Just to clarify - Miller's pyramid is about assessment of competence (at various levels) so they aren't really the same thing. Could you please explain the link you are suggesting?
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Veena Rodrigues made a comment
Really pleased to have you all on the course. I hope you find it enjoyable and useful.
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Veena Rodrigues replied to John Cuthill
The courses are on 'Assessment & Feedback', 'Planning your professional development as an educator' as well as the flagship course 'Clinical Supervision with Confidence'.
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You might enjoy the other courses in this set of four then.
