Tina Bean
Science Teacher in Australia with a love of history. I am also an amateur genealogist and Family Historian. I blog at www.gransdenfamily.com
Location Australia
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Yesterday I walked into a classroom because another teacher needed help. It was a difficult year 10 class and she is a casual teacher with more experience than I. The class was refusing to sit in their allocated seats. I didn't know if I could help her but I walked in anyway. With a lot of respect for the students I told them that I understood that their...
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Thank you, I am glad that I am not the only person who feels that way. ;-)
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Tina Bean replied to chris jones
Sure does.
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This has been a really wonderful course for me. I am really looking forward to putting it into practice. I have learned more about behaviour management through this course than through anything else I have ever done. I really wish something like this had of been taught to me during my Teacher Training. We basically get one or two lessons mostly focused on "if...
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I do most of them but I think I can do better. As I have not actually been able to put the content of this course into practise yet I am not going to do the survey. Instead I will come back to it at a later stage and do it then so that I can do it based upon the work I put into my classes over five weeks.
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I loved this course. I wish that I hadn't been on holidays while I was doing it as I am now going to have to go back and work on each thing one step at a time over five weeks with my classes starting on Monday. But there are so many good ideas and suggestions here. I am certain that this will make a difference to my classes.
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Tina Bean replied to chris jones
I think it really depends upon the situation. If you can't deal with it now giving the students a set time when it will be dealt with is good. But, I have found that an incident like that can often mess up the other students, it often needs to be talked about. So sometimes it is better to set students something they can do with minimal help for just a few...
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Tina Bean made a comment
Start the whole lesson over again.
Meet and greet at the door. There should be set rules for what happens with balls and for organisation and behaviour in the class.
Meeting and Greeting at the door could also have given the students a chance to quickly discuss what was happening in the playground and to deal with this issue. Some form of restorative action... -
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I like the six questions. I will be using them for the students that I have to keep back or send out of the class. Usually I have a chat with the student after the class and ask them what happened but this is a much better set of questions than the ones that I have used. Plus, as said it also looks at what I could have done differently and gives me an...
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Love the six questions and the idea of having them on my keys lanyard.
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We have verbal warnings/ discussions, remove an item, for example a phone if that is the problem, get the head teacher in to speak to student/ class, have student removed from the class, then depending upon the severity of the problem a Deputy, the Suspensions and eventually for repeat and violent behaviour expulsion can occur. But that is a whole school...
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I knew that Sean also didn't have a bag so I told him that I would keep his lunch with me in my room because he was going to have a class with me directly before lunch. I would make sure that it was there and ready for him at the end of class- no strings attached he was going to get that lunch no matter what.
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I am a relief teacher so I usually only see my classes for a few weeks at a time. However last year I had a full year part time and this year I have had a term full time. For both of those times I had one particular Sean. We clashed massively last year. I tried a whole lot of different techniques but they only worked for a short while. So when I first saw that...
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Tina Bean replied to Matthew Jones
Teaching is getting busier- yes.
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I teach High School, respect is actually an extremely hard concept to explain, even to older children. They all have a different concept on how you show respect and a lot of that depends on how people in their culture and family show respect. So if you want a particular behaviour and if you believe that behaviour shows respect then it is better if your rule...
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It was obvious that the teacher already had an agreement with Michael, possibly that was a class agreement or rule.
The initial request to stick to their agreement was part of general behaviour management.
The crouch down- you have fifteen minutes to ***** I am giving you and instruction- phone out of sight and on silent, thank you- was part of the script.... -
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I like the script, it gives me a direction to go in when I am exhausted and that will help me manage my own behaviour. When I get exhausted, like everyone else, I handle things badly. By the end of the week my classes are more disruptive and I am sure that is because the students are exhausted and so are all the teachers. Being consistent in technique and...
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Tina Bean replied to Anca-Irinel Teleoaca
There isn't in ours either. But we do have a hierarchy of consequences that we can use for example having the student sit outside the room until we talk to them, this can only happen for a few minutes, asking a head teacher to come and talk to students etc. So I will just implement these strategies before I ever get to that point, in my own classroom.
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1. Opening line- I have noticed that you are still having trouble with ….
2. Is there some help that you need to focus on ….
3. You know our core values are respect, responsibility and excellence.
4. We can chat further about this when you stay back after class with me to discuss ….
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I like quite a few of these. The one I really don't like is "can we have a talk about this sensibly please" I find that incredibly patronising and would never say it to anyone and would be cross if anyone said it to me. That to me feels like my feelings are invalidated because it makes the assumption that I am not being sensible. I may not be being sensible...
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Tina Bean replied to Kara Hewitt
Yes, I have come across that as well. It also means that some kids get to a point where they expect the distractions to be able to happen for them all the time.
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I have one particular student who has a lot of problems. He is a nice kid and he always tries to work really hard for me but he has huge problems moderating his behaviour. One of the deputies gets on really well with him. So when this kid has an issue I send him down to the Deputy with a note to say that he is not in trouble and just needs a walk. The Deputy...
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Tina Bean replied to Matthew Jones
I hope it goes well.
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Tina Bean replied to Matthew Jones
Jennifer Sharp has some excellent ones
1. Follow instructions first time.
2. When someone is speaking, listen
3. Stay on taskThat shows respect and in some ways friendliness, it also incorporates trying hard. The rules are positive and simple and easier for students to understand.
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Tina Bean made a comment
I have to do this more, in particular the less structured form of positive re-enforcement.
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Tina Bean made a comment
Unfortunately I am now at work at the moment so I will need to ask students this in a couple of weeks when I go back to work.
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Tina Bean made a comment
We have specific school notes like this already that we are supposed to use as part of our reward system.
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I do this a lot. I give students positive notes when they do well in assessment tasks but I also give students positive notes for when they work well in class. There are some students who work really well who are never going to get great marks but they are always trying. For me it is really important to recognise those students. Same with the student who...
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I really like this. It helps to see some of these techniques demonstrated as well as talked about. This was great.
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I loved the little bit about the end about putting reminders and so forth into your diary or having a letter sent to you by another colleague. I have just put reminders into my online diary that go through what focus from these techniques I am going to follow up each week.
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Tina Bean replied to Jennifer Sharp
These are pretty much exactly the same ones that I decided to use for my class as well. Excellent rules and very simple to understand and implement.
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I like that. It may not be appropriate for High School but then maybe it should be.
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Tina Bean replied to Matthew Jones
I like the concepts but I think you need to be explicit in what you think those behaviours are. What is being positive to you, is it the same as to everyone else? If now how do you expect your students to show positivity? Same with Respect- how do your students show respect. What is it that you want them to do to demonstrate respect. Rules that are understood...
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These are similar to our Core values at which are Respect, Responsibility and Excellence. The issue we had was that when students were asked what this meant or even more importantly what this looked like they didn't understand or more to the point had differing understandings of what these things meant. For example when talking about respect, some students...
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Tina Bean made a comment
Loved this. I have kept a copy to refer back to. Now I just need to make sure that I do and follow it up.
I will most certainly be using the rule- Follow Instructions First Time Given. I can't count how many times I have sat there giving the same instructions over and over again. -
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I will have to leave this one for a couple of weeks as I am currently on leave but I will certainly do it and see what response I get.
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Routine for Practical Work
One person from each group collect chemicals and any equipment from the front of the class
One person from each group collect lab equipment
One person write up results
Read all instructions through, highlight any that need additional explanation or help
Raise your hand if you have any questions
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I have a couple of icons displayed but it is not something that I do on a regular basis. I tend to use words instead. I need to change that.
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Tina Bean replied to Julieta Rocha
Can you have a small poster on a piece of cardboard that you can take with you and put somewhere obvious in each room. It doesn't need to be large but if it is portable and can be visible in each classroom would that do the same thing?
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I do to. I also need to figure out exactly what my own expectations are. I struggle with organisation in a practical lesson. I struggle to know how I want it to be conducted and what processes my students should be going through. If I am unclear on this then how are my students going to be clear on this. So I need to sit down and figure out exactly what I...
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Meet and Greet is something I usually do. What I have to add into it is something about being on time. The problem is that I sometimes miss students that make a point of turning up late, so I need to, in a friendly way, make sure that I praise when they turn up on time and just request that they do try and turn up on time when they do not. I really think I...
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Tina Bean replied to Rebecca wood
Hi Rebecca, I did answer this but for some reason my answer didn't come through.
I am teaching High School students so 12-16 is where I use this technique. I do not use it for my senior students- 16-18 because they don't need it. -
Yes exactly. Unless you are there and you see what is happening you don't really get a sense of how disruptive this sort of thing can be. If you try and talk to parents they just can't understand the issue because it seems so low level. But when it is happening every time that student has a lesson and then happening with sometimes 3-4 students at once, because...
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Tina Bean replied to Kate Taylor
It may also help her to have a bunch of pens handy for this situation.
Kids use this sort of thing as a way to get a break or delay with what they are doing. Often because too much writing is happening or, as you said, because they are unable to manage the work load. So preempting the problem, having a ready solution and then following up by moving up to... -
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Dear at the end of the line,
I can understand your frustration but the best thing you can do is come up with a way of teaching the class that works for both you and them. You have this class for an entire year and not teaching them will do you as much damage as it does you.
It may be worth having a quiet chat with the two students. I suggest that you do that... -
My personal change will be to remind students of the positive behaviours I have seen them doing whilst dealing with any negative behaviours that they may be engaged in at the time. I thought that was a fantastic thing to suggest. It uses the students on behaviour to model your expectations.
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"Don’t be tempted to chase the secondary behaviours at that moment, deal with them later. Reinforce the behaviour you want and quell the first signs of confrontation by immediately using a previous example of the student’s good behaviour. “Marlon, do you remember yesterday when you helped me clear up the lab/gave me that fantastic design/resisted stabbing...
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Yes I had to stop and take notes on a couple of points. There were some excellent ones. Particularly the ones around not asking students to put their hands up and around how you phrase asking students for questions.
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Tina Bean made a comment
The teachers that I most responded to when I was a student were those who responded to me and were interested in my life both in school and out. They also shared some of their lives. I still remember one of my teachers telling me that his wife had just had a baby and how excited he was by that. I like to share a little bit of my experiences with my students as...
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Tina Bean replied to Nicola Hearne
Totally agree but this can also be one of the hardest things for a teacher to do day in and day out. I know that my emotions and responses dictate the behaviour of my class. I really try to moderate that but there are just some days when this is the most difficult thing to do. So having techniques for management as well as moderating our own behaviour is...
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Tina Bean replied to Rebecca wood
Yes, I totally agree. It took me a while to figure out what would work well and sometimes it does take more than just the count down to get my classes to settle down. But I find that usually now they are quiet by two and by three I can start in on my lesson. Something as simple as that has really helped me with being able to find a way to manage my classes...
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I love the reports. They tally exactly with my experience. I have also found that low level behavioural problems suck up so much good quality teaching and learning time. Students who come in late then don't get their books out then don't start working so I can't move onto the next thing, then start swinging on their chairs. The list goes on an on. When a...
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Tina Bean replied to Rebecca wood
Yes, I found that talking in a quiet voice can work really well as well.
I also put my hands up and count down from three. On one they all tend to stop and listen. It is another way of giving them time to settle down. -
Tina Bean replied to Leticia Rivera
Totally agree. My worst days are when I am feeling tired and stressed and am not as resilient as others. I set them off because I am less flexible and therefore they enjoy my classes less which ends in a downwards spiral. I know that when I am less able to function that effects my students and makes my classes worse yet sometimes it is so hard to pull myself...
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So many times that I have felt like this. One particular time was with a child who had massive behavioural problems. He was also climbing in and out windows, throwing things at people, stealing stuff off their desk etc. There were other students in the room that were disruptive but at a much lower leve. This one particular students was very nasty. In the end I...
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Hi, my name is Tina. I am a teacher in Sydney, Australia. I work mostly as a casual teacher but often have long blocks during the year. The school that I work at has a lot of older teachers and it has been common for me to come in just after they retire and before the full time teacher has been appointed. As a number of these teachers have retired due to old...
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I agree with that as well. These are all techniques that I have tried with this kid. He is not responsive and nor were his brother and sister before him. The parents are supportive in some ways but they do not value education much. They are also just not there for the kids as they work very long hours.
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Thanks Maud, I have tried all of those options, if he decides that he does not want to learn what I have to teach none of those options works. But on other days he is just fine. It really depends on what mind set he comes into the class with.
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Tina Bean replied to Helen McGeer
I think that is exactly the point, I had not really thought about it before. All students do want to achieve but what they want to achieve and what we want to achieve can be very different. as you say some teenagers want to challenge authority and some of them come from backgrounds where what we are teaching is not what they value. So they want to achieve but...
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I still have a long way to go with this. I am really interested in implementing many of the techniques and have started to do so. But I am also aware that I am finding the implementation of these techniques a challenge. When to fit them into my lessons is something I am struggling with. I was really hoping to see a whole teaching and learning cycle with when...
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I totally agree with this. But, I don't think people have one or another. For example, I had a particularly difficult class today. I know that has left me with a fixed mind set for the day. I am working on it but the frustration of today has made it very difficult for me to want to explore growth. On the other hand I had a wonderful day yesterday and was able...
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Tina Bean replied to Helen McGeer
Yes, I find that to be one of the biggest frustrations. There is also won't engage but leaves it at that and won't engage and likes to disrupt everyone elses learning as a result. The second one does not happen that often but when you get a student who decides that will not engage and they will disrupt everyone else as a result it can make for an extremely...
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Tina Bean made a comment
I am unsure when I will get a chance to do this. My students only ever usually have me for a few weeks at a time. Therefore they don't know my teaching style prior to this course and won't know what changes I implement with the next contract that I undertake. So I am unsure if I can really do much about this. But I will continue to explore differentiation in...
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Getting to know your students and try new things. They will go wrong, sometimes horribly wrong but as you use them more and your students use them more it will get better and easier.
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I find the interest in the process one can sometimes be the most challenging. Currently I have one student in one class that has no interest in learning and a lot of interest in disrupting the learning of others. This has been an issue with others from his family as well. When he is not in the class the class are chatty but lovely, focused and interested. As...
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I like the idea of other students staffing the help desk.
I also have trouble with the getting to know your students part. Often I am only teaching students for 2-6 weeks at a time. I have to get to know them very quickly. Who they are and how they respond can vary a lot from subject to subject as well. When I am teaching industrial arts I develop totally... -
Tina Bean replied to [Learner left FutureLearn]
Yes, I tend to plan for the middle and then alter for the bottom and the top. So maybe I need a mindset change.
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Tina Bean made a comment
Looking forward to next week. We will be back off holidays and I will get a chance to actually try some of the many techniques we have been learning about.
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I particularly like the Help Desk and will try that in my classes.
Practicalities will be resources and time to actually implement the ideas. I need to build up a folder of these activities. I already have many resources that can be used but have not been used with these tools. Now I need to figure out how to use these tools to help me build on what I... -
Yes me to. I would really like to get more of an idea of how these teachers structure a complete learning sequence so that I can see when they are introducing these different activities. Are they doing some chalk and talk, are they doing some book reading and high lighting or other options. Are they then breaking out into these different activities or are they...
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I also like this and the idea of technical support so that they can take their questions beyond what is being taught if they want to.
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I am still unsure of how to use the Double Bubble. I like the idea in concept but I need to research it a bit more as, up until this course, I had never heard of it a bit more. We are seeing glimpses of it but not really how it is used. I want to be able to use it as it looks useful.
I really liked using the different techniques to get the students to really... -
Tina Bean made a comment
Help desk ideal looks fantastic.
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I would love an answer on that one as well.
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Yes, these are the ones that I am most likely to use as well.
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Yep, I have never heard of it either. Looking forward to finding out more.
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Tina Bean made a comment
Looking forward to trying many of these techniques out. Thank you for the time everyone has put into making this course available.
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Tina Bean made a comment
School goes back in one week for me and I will be teaching classes that I have not taught for most of the year. I have been teaching in other areas instead. The classes that I am to take over have been taught by a teacher who has been extremely sick and as a result the level of discipline and the teaching standards have dropped. I need to establish myself as...
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Totally agree. However, it is also worth, on occasion, letting students go for the more challenging option and seeing if they will work with another student to get that work completed. Just to see if that stretch will give them the impetus to take it that little bit further.
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I think that this is less preparation than the pyramid idea which means that it is probably more practical for more regular usage in the class. At the same time it does not reduce the differentiation that can be done. A mix of both of course would be really good.
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Tina Bean made a comment
Early Stage
• Can talk about their own learning
• Asks the teacher which task they should start on
• Recognises which activities they can easily completeNeeds work over some extended time
• Works well in groups
• Knows when the process needs more practice
• Makes connections between different ideasI have quite a few students that don’t feel...
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Tina Bean made a comment
Seeks links between different subjects
Offers personal examples that are relevant
When stuck refers to earlier work before asking teacher
Many of the above options are good so I have just focused on three. I think the easiest thing to do to help students engage in these activities is to tell them that that is what I expect of them and also for me to ask... -
Yes, it is the organisation stage of this that really gets me. But I guess if you did it once a week for each class level and interspersed it with some practical work and some direct instruction that could reduce the overall preparation and still give the students a chance to work on a lesson like this.
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Tina Bean made a comment
Doh! I can't believe that I have never thought of doing this top down. I have often used the idea of choosing their own tasks and my worry has always been that students go for what they find easier instead of looking at what would help them engage the most. But of course you can use the pyramid top down as well as bottom up. I can't believe I have never...
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Tina Bean made a comment
I really don't think I do diagnostics anywhere near enough. I set the work level based upon my outcomes and then adjust as I go around the room. I adjust depending upon how I see the students handling the work that I have set. I don't tend to pre-determine that at all. I really think that this is an area that I need to focus on to make sure that I am not...
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There may also need to be some attention paid to making sure that the students truly understand the association between what the test is for and how that relates to food. So often students truly do not understand how a practical relates to the theory that they are learning. They just don't make those very simple connections so for some of the students this may...
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Yes. this is one that I tend to do a lot as well. I also differentiate by intervention a lot. I often assign a task and them will spend time going around the room to different students, checking their understanding and providing one on one intervention to make sure that they are able to do the set tasks. If there are issues that I cannot resolve through added...
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Tina Bean made a comment
Looking forward to this. I am a week behind but hope to catch up soon.
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Thank you. I have already put my name down for the Assessment for Learning STEM course when it is on in October. I am looking forward to doing it.
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Tina Bean made a comment
Really enjoyed this week. There are so many things I would like to try or expand if I am already doing them. It has certainly helped me to generate more ideas for my classes.
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Tina Bean replied to emmanuelle Dupic
Yes, the next stage.
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Tina Bean made a comment
I really want to start increasing the level of formative assessment that I do. In particular I would like to have a greater look at the apps mentioned and see where I can take them. I have a block next term and in fourth term, both of which will last for the majority of those terms, so I will have good opportunities to try these techniques.
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Yes. I agree. I fall down in implementing the next step as well. I can do it on an individual basis once students are working on something but I need to find my creative ways to come up with a range of activities, particularly ones that challenge higher level students without just being more work for them, and still give them the foundation knowledge that they...
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Tina Bean made a comment
I think that for the first activities the teachers were using them to find out what misconceptions the students had so that they could then address those issues in class at different levels depending upon the students needs.
For the second lot of activities, the questioning techniques, there were similar aims but also to find out where to start the next set... -
I really like getting my older students to work together. In fact most lessons I have them working with each other and discussing problems rather than working by themselves. It can take some students quite a while to get into that, they tend to think that someone is cheating if they are working on the same work together. But it really helps them to understand...
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Yes, so have I. I also like the partner talk, but I think I would have to do it in a very different way for my secondary students. Not that that would be a problem. ;-)
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Yes, I agree. I would love to see some more examples of the confidence activity.
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Does either of these apps have a bank of questions that go along with them so that they can be used? Designing the questions could be very time consuming but being able to pick and choose questions from a range of subject headings and at an appropriate level should be a much easier thing to manage.
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Yes, I did too. I have never seen them before and it was really interesting to see how they worked. Particularly the Plickers as I had not understood the way they worked from the description earlier this week.
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Yes, I wasn't happy about her saying that there were wrong answers either. I think it was meant to be a general comment to the whole class but it looked directed at one student. As for the zipgrade questions, I think that could have been done a little more quietly and then solved the problem. I suspect that she was speaking up because she was being recorded. I...
