Dónal Fogarty
I'm a writer from London. I teach English at universities on both sides of the Atlantic
https://donalfogarty.com
twitter @efficiencyanado
Location Rarely of static abode
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Eve O Mahony
This sounds intriguing. Stick a link in your futurelearn profile.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Jenny Watson
Good point about where to look. I've been doing a lot of online teaching and keep having to remind myself where to look - complicated by not knowing if the faces on my display are in the same layout on my students screens. So for example I'll look left a little to say "Good point Jenny" because leftish is where Jenny might be on my screen but obviously on your...
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As this text is poetic rather than speech, I found my presenters voice sounded clear but boring (even when attempting to inject some 'drama' with pauses and intonation). I then hammed up my London (non-RP) accent - you know the one I'm talking about, international interlocutors are convinced we're Australian.
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Love the way she presented this intro. She didn't start with the cliche "Hello everyone my name is... my credentials are..."
She jumped right in with what is this course about. Nonetheless, we also learned that she's a really practical person that we can learn from "...That sounds like a lot to do. So we better get cracking"
Plus, I'm terrible with names -... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Elena Korsakova
Hi @TonyMcEnery
I enjoyed reading your What is Corpus Linguistics chapter. As a former geophysicist I particularly enjoyed the astromony analogy. Though, I now find myself somewhere between the Earth and the stars when contemplating the mysteries of human language (Wilde n.d.).
I'm currently creating a parallel corpus (a Spanish version of Coxhead's AWL). I... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Elena Korsakova
Hi Elena
It's a numbered list of types - I don't think rank is implied.
A quick key word search of google scholar found this potentially useful article on optics:
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/7813502
Search is iterative. The more you search the more you find (check the references used by the sources you discover, plug any relevant new... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Elizabeth Gill
Sorry for the typo in the spelling of your name. I decided not to edit it as it sounds like a pretty cool potential pen name.
UPDATE:Before this comment is moderated, I better add that the connotation in my mind was a postive one - Elixir
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Pauline Bureau
Interesting!
Global warming vs global heating
Climate change vs climate emergency.
I tend to think if we'd focus on local (e.g. local air quality), it may have been more relatable to people and precipitated actions that may have achieved some of the same aims. -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Elizabeth Gill
Hi Elixabeth
I used to be based in Marazion. Sounds like an interesting line of enquiry. When I lived there I always used to flip flop (pardon the pun) between it being a dialect or simply a higher tolerance of un-grammaticality.
Have a look into which groups are currently promoting the revival of the Cornish language (a different thing I know), you might be... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Lyubov Bobchynets
Oh. And my field is English for Academic Purposes. What's your field/interest? My study could be replicated by substituting the Spanish for the Portuguese lexicon - I wonder how similar the findings would be.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Lyubov Bobchynets
I'm currently performing a comparative analysis of quotidian Spanish and academic English. I use the word quotidian here as, although not an everyday word in English, this word that means every day and it's Spanish cognate 'cotidiana' is used every day in Spanish. I'm hoping this course will help me confirm (or correct) the methodology I've employed.
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Thanks Lorrae. Great to know that #LancsBox remains free. I'm a precariously employed academic, so great to know of another tool I can use when I'm "between" institutions ;)
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Thanks for the glossary. I recently needed to provide a definition of lemma. I shall reference your succinct explanation in future.
Looking forward to learning with you all.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Dominick Tompkins
Sorry mate, you lost me on that second one. Can you give me an example. Closest I can get to key something is: "Let's key the b*#$ard's motor!"
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Thanks for your comment Dominick. Which L1s do think might (pre-) facilitate the acquisition of statue?
To my linguistic nose (i.e. no research) it smells like it could be a low frequency, low value anomaly made familiar by the cultural reference of the Statue of Liberty (and possibly other famous statues that share a similar noun phrase form). -
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Surely the test should be tested. First in the lab then in the real world. It looks like this is what's happening here. First iteration, test is too easy (as indicated by data on language/intercultural communication related deaths/injuries and or patient/service user perceptions of safety). Second iteration, test is too difficult (as indicated by drop in...
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All of my learners from false beginner onwards know "statue" on day one. It's part of my third and final rule for language learning.
1. [redacted]
2. Don't worry (be happy)
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I can follow her logic with regard to the lower frequency days of the week as they are conceptually related. However, given the lower frequency of pepper coupled with the fact it has lower utility and ubiquity (and hence lower value in terms of range and centrality) than salt it is not clear why "it makes sense to teach it at the same time as salt". Why not...
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In the video relating to impossibility of answering the poll question, it might have been nice to introduce the concept of lemmas.
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Thank you for sharing this. I'm currently performing a contrastive analysis that aims to determine the distribution and frequency of the Spanish cognates in English academic texts. Your example will help me to explain what I'm doing to friends and family who often look blank whenever I start talking about it.
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Hi Irene
Nice to meet you.How do you rate the grammaticality of the following linguists' in-joke:
The use of the double negative in English is a no-no.
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Surely grammatical acceptability is genre dependent. The purpose of the "song" genre is to communicate feelings.
The singer wishes to convey that he is unable gain satisfaction. He adds the additional negative to emphasise the lack of satisfaction. In this respect the 'no' serves as a quantifier. It may also provide some sort of 'meter' or rhythm. -
Dónal Fogarty replied to George Holganza
@DiarmuidFogarty
"Hot stones, cold rain"? -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Greta Krypczyk-Oddy
Procrastination is often frowned upon. But I find my best writing happens when I really should be doing something else. If I try to "do" some writing the "having" to do it often blocks me.
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For me, the two ideas in suggestion No.5 (2nd and 3rd person(s), and addressing it to someone) seem to have the most creative potential.
I can also see them being useful at the insporation & composition stages not just the editing/polishing process.*insporation was an autocorrect typo. But I left it there as perhaps we are unwittingly surrounded by...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Diarmuid Fogarty
Performance anxiety?
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Bel Conto (an hommage to Wk 1 & 2)
Clap Clap
The line broke
The prose got chokeAnd the words went to heaven
In a little known editionMy tutor told me
That if I study
I'd write a goody
My aunty told her
I stole a stanzaNow she won't show me
Not no more poetry
Clap clap
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Dónal Fogarty made a comment
In thinking about why is art,
rather than what is art,
it is my belief that art
is a construction between,
in the case of poetry,
writer and receiverArt has a unique power
to inform the receiver
to teach them about unfamiliar worldsI am not familiar with the fear
described in the above poemsConfusing colon notwithstanding, the latter...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Monica S
Well, I don't know about Scrooge your less than generous reviewer, but I like it.
"moody beings protecting things" Was a standout line for me (just sorry I don't have the analytical vocab to tell you why).Here's a thought that will encourage you to keep on sharing.
Some centuries ago now my driving instructor would respond to impatient tooters with a... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Barbara Spyrou
Ah! I love story.
And a really tight story told in the form of a short poem is marvellous thing to experience.
The Hunting of the Snark must be long poem short story? -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Teri Rife
Trochaic meter.
DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM da
Thank you teacher!
I learned something new. -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Sally E
Yes it was read to the punctuation rather than the line breaks. So if it sounds beautiful like that as a piece of conventionally punctuated prose. What motivated the poet to place the line breaks as she has done?
Novice disclosure #1: I thought that splitting poems (not just sonnets) into lines and line breaks was a cue for where the reader should... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Les Allen
Generally I prefer a generous artist who produces inclusive art.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Les Allen
You raise an interesting point here. The learned virtue signalling their prowess by generating impenetrable verse deliberately only accessible to their peers.
It happens in many media.
Rothko: "You still using more than one colour in your paintings?"Sometimes if I come to understand what the artist has done I might appreciate the artwork (even if...
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Dónal Fogarty made a comment
Brexit should have taught us that binary choices are always problematic.
Here, in order for our choice of yes or no to have any collective sense of meaning, we first need a collective sense of the meaning of rhyme.
'tis a crime, t' fail t' define a rhyme
But a rhyme in a every in line
Does that make poetry out of me
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Diarmuid Fogarty
PS. @DiarmuidFogarty re: the reviews. I loved that my reviewers included a veterinary surgeon (my late father was a vet - sadly he died before I could show him my writing), somebody called Styles (oh lucky Mr Styles - check out nominative determinism) and Buttrick (her surname especially befits my generally irreverent poetry).
Hopefully I'll get a chance...
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A huge thank you to the tutors and all involved in setting up this course (not forgetting you, my virtual classmates too)!
You seem to have created what I call a Goldilocks curriculum - it's somehow just right for this particular dabbler at this particular time.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Monica S
@MonicaS Don't worry too much about feedback from someone who hadn't taken the care to read the assessment/feedback rubric.
There's a dozen people in this thread who'd love to read your poem and offer you constructive positive feedback.
Lean in, post your poem below and you will soon forget the feedback of the fool who thought themselves to be wise enough to... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Diarmuid Fogarty
@DiarmuidFogarty I too loved many of the things of which you speak.
But I mostly love that I'm sharing this learning forum with a demi-ganger - the synchronicity of there being another DF is justifying my truancy from a six thousand word thesis which is already way behind schedule. -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Dónal Fogarty
I like poems (and prose for that matter) that mess around the with the form (spelling and/or pronunciation) as well as function of words. In fact for the first assignment I had to review a rather nice poem by one of our classmates that played with (the verb) possession and (the noun) possession. It cautioned us not to become possessed by our possessions.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Dónal Fogarty
Impose on me for a palindrome?
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Grace A
Hi @GraceA "[poems] come intuitively and from my gut"
It's strange how us prose people will sit and think and work and produce writing. But somehow our poems just seem to arrive in our heads unannounced but with awfully good grace. I too am hoping to learn enough from this course to actually start "working" on my poetry rather than waiting for some graceful... -
Dónal Fogarty made a comment
Fogarty's the name
an' poetry's m' gameI'm an Irish English teacher (the best kind). My performance poetry is generally irreverent. I suspect the comedy hides some deep seated feelings of impostor syndrome.
My passion for English (and in fact why I became an English teacher) I put down to my desire to be the great English teacher I never had during my...
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I was looking at this but even in their PDF there is no background info or academic type referencing.
http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/emergencies/qa/emergencies_qa5/en/ -
Yes, satisfactory is pretty subjective isn't it. x litres of water to satisfy what needs exactly? Apart from the chap who stated water is hydrogen and oxygen the weren't many "factual" responses. One student nearly made an "academic" response as she had covered it on her human rights course but didn't cite the source for her estimated satisfactory daily...
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We are basically water.
You can live for more than a week without food, but without water you would die of thirst in a couple of days.These two statements are a pretty un-academic way for me to start this course. They're in the active voice for a start which some people frown upon in academic writing. But worse than that, though both statements might well...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Amanda Cooper
Hi Amanda, my wife's a psychologist and I teach English to psychology undergrads in Colombia so I suppose you could say I'm an armchair psychologist. Do you know of Dr Alan Watkins of Complete Coherence fame his HR talks are pretty out of this world.
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Hi Kenneth. Pretty similar reasons to me. I teach in Colombia but I'm in the UK for the summer working at summer schools and then teaching pre-sessional EAP at a uni in the north of England. So I'm hoping to pick up some extra subject knowledge and teaching strategies.
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I'm interested in communication so "be able to recognise cultural variations in communication styles" is what I want to learn more about.
However, as an European expat who's lived in Colombia for a while, the novelty of cultural difference is starting to wear off and is becoming more of an annoyance when the social norms here conflict with what I'm trying...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Dónal Fogarty
Hi Sondoss.
For me, shallow and deep are relative terms on a continuum.Lets take your question as a concrete example.
You've read about reflection in this task. You've reflected and concluded you don't feel clear about the difference between shallow & deep in this context. Depending on what you're comparing it to this could be described as a fairly... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Taehwan Kim
As an ex-engineer I'd like to agree with you about stripping out cultural & ethical education with the aim of streamlining/fast-tracking relevant content delivery (e.g. as a young spotty wannabe IK Brunel I baulked at my MechEng degree including a compulsory European Studies module). But since pivoting my career into social impact fields I now believe that if...
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I would merge Beliefs 1 & 3 as they are essentially the same.
In Belief 7 I would remove the word "different" and replace it will "all" - I believe deep learning and retention is achieved when every appropriate (to the content) delivery mechanism is exploited.
1) Be Authentic and Engaging.
Students are motivated to learn when they are engaged with...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Dónal Fogarty
What's that got to do with diversity?
Well only 1% of entrants to HE here are ready for university. Or in other words those from lower socio-economic backgrounds, who aren't rich enough to have been sent to the equivalent of Eton, arrive at uni woefully unprepared for the new paradigm of autonomous adult learning in a globalised (educational) world.You...
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The top down educational policies produced by the Colombian Ministry of Education (alarmingly called Laws) have not yet produced their aim of school leavers' English proficiency being at B1 (CEFR) or above upon commencing undergraduate studies. My colleagues and I are then faced with a "bailing the titanic out with a colander" scenario when dealing with the...
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I reflect all the time about by my teaching practice (and my production as a writer); both deeply and shallowly. Despite the negative connotations of the adjective, I think there is still value in those quick shallower reflections.
I like this (new to me) idea of the four lenses. I hadn't really considered these "external camera angles" of student,...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Fohle Lygunda
Please remind me about your suggestion if I forget (I've got a lot going on right now and I'm pretty disorganised at the best of time :) ). I have some ideas about it but I think (even though I'm a "native") you should be aware of the following movement.
https://teflequityadvocates.com/
Nonetheless, for a lot of gap year volunteers* from the UK, the...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Stephane Mallarme
Stephane I think you win the prize for the most intriguing intro. I'm sold on the coursera course by reading the title alone! I may submit my "21st Century Teacher's Lament" to your journal. Now, please stop distracting me I'm supposed to be studying.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Harry Cather
Hi Harry, seems (reading between the lines) we have a lot in common.
Are you talking about the myth of learning styles (they still teach this even now). I'd be interested to hear what other non-evidenced based techniques you instinctively railed against. As I'm trying to collect examples of learning myths for a workshop I'm developing.
I'm gonna follow...
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Dónal Fogarty made a comment
I teach English at a uni in Colombia and enrolled on this course as I recently took an Teaching Adults course with Open2Study and learnt some techniques which they don't teach you on dedicated TESOL courses. So I'm hoping through this course I'll gain more knowledge of universal principles and concepts of teaching adults in higher education that I can then...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Fohle Lygunda
Nice to meet you. Although I can't speak French we do have something in common.
I work in higher education in Colombia and my vision for the the English department is that our university moves away from just ESOL and (and a misguided CLIL program roll-out) to be a bilingual institution that provides its courses in EMI (English as Medium of Instruction)...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Sergey Shilayev
Not Applicable
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I'm interested to know which survey tool is at the backend of this. I liked it's nice clean lines.*
I ask because I've just used SurveyMonkey in a CPD research project I'm working on and I'm getting very high return rate of survey only partially or barely completed.* It was quite long though! As this course is free I was happy to finish it but had I been...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Bibi Asheba Nikijuluw
Hi Bibi. I'm a fellow English teacher. So I look forward to following your comments and reflections as this course unfolds.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Marta Lerena
Hi Marta, I teach English at a university in Colombia and my reasons for joining this course are very similar to yours. Other future learn courses have been full of content and ideas that have worked very well when I've brought them into the classroom.
Hi Eliana, your English is at a level where you must stop being self-deprecating by say things like "my... -
Dónal Fogarty replied to Zlatka Ivanova
Interesting q hope the mentors see it. My wife nearly went NARIC route for professional quals recognition (psychologist) but took the much more interesting and less costly (and perhaps more respected) route of experience based and in house qualifications while working in in her field the UK.
How would a recruiter feel about a NARIC stamp on a foreign (i.e.... -
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Malta, I think it would be great to teach English and learn to free dive in my free time.
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There is a virtuous circle when you find your niche - you tend to love doing what you're good at, and you tend to get good at what you love doing. It took me many, many years and almost as many different jobs to find out that I'm a teacher. And right now being an English teacher at a foreign university I've never enjoyed a job so much!
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Google Barichara Colombia. It's a very special place with some very special schools and we really need native speaker English teachers (and teachers from all over the world too!) to inspire our children. I'll send you some links if you like.
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I'm originally from London but now live in Colombia where I teach English at a local University
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Susan L
Opps, that sounds really biased. Molly, Tom and Micheal its fascinating to hear you different points of view too.
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Susan L
I'll second that Susan, Christabelle is great. In a poorly characterised screenplay adaptation of this course Micheal or Tom would be cast as the rock star writers - but isn't real life wonderful, Christabelle you rock!
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Hi Anne, I think we're all really grateful for these wonderful links, references and resources you have been posting. But I'm really curious to know what *you* think, what helps your writing?
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James, when I read your comment by some weird momentary dyslexia I heard "One Day" the David Nichols novel - haven't seen the screen adaptation but (this is going to sound like sacrilege) I didn't finish this novel because halfway through I was like "I see what your doing here, it's very clever and very well done but I don't yet care enough about these...
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I almost don't want to recommend the French film Irreversible because it ends with a deeply disturbing rape scene. I think it is particularly harrowing to watch as the film (edited in reverse) starts with the protagonist seeking futile retribution on the perpetrator of this despicable act and perhaps we as viewers become immersed in the protagonist's...
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It's probably a question for later step in the course, but what on earth would a script for a Michel Gondry music video look like?
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Stuart greenfield
Sally please butt in some more (into any conversation) I think that's idea of this type of learning environment. I'll look out for CJ when I finally get a chance to watch the west wing.
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I've been trying this with various story ideas from various story formats at various stages of completion but find particularly in scripts that I keep getting stuck with the GOAL descriptor. The protag's goals are fluid and change through the film, he may not even have had any until the antagonists arrive on scene.
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Great point Linda, does this technique transfer to other story forms. If it doesn´t is that play or that novel not tight enough?
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It will be interesting to find out in the next step what these five fingers will represent. And if you haven´t skipped ahead already let´s play a game and submit our own ideas.
Thumb - The main theme.
First Finger - First or most important openning scene.
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I got my first big break shortly after taking a job as a bell hop in Shepards Bush (untrue story).
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Sorry Michael I didn´t follow you and now I´m curious.
Americans say "grain elevator" for a place in which grain is stored? -
"You have until she gets off at her floor (maybe 4 floors) to tell her." But if your pitch is particularly pithy maybe she´ll want to stay in the lift a little longer ´cause she´s just got to find out what happens. In which case you may have just sold it.
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For me it's the times I've come to a movie with an "empty cup", not having any expectations or any idea who's in it or what it is going to be about that have often led to the most enjoyable and powerful film watching experiences. This requires a) luck (I've sat through drivel because no matter how appalling the film has been I have to know what happens), or b)...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Stuart greenfield
INT - NIGHT
Donal "Donny" Fogarty (middle aged, slightly balding, unattractive) types away thoughtfully at unseen keyboard
DONNY (voice over)
Stuart, the sexism you see doesn't grate with me. It's a sad fact of life that beautiful people have a different experience to non-beautiful people and our experience of life (or our protagonists's lives) shapes our... -
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I read Gone Girl (haven't seen, nor have I read the novel on which it is based). Even the notes/scene descriptions were quite literary - close up of PEN cursiving across a page - and the dialogue introducing us to the characters read like it was prose from a novel.
Animal Kingdom (have seen) starts with a number of brutally abrupt scene changes echoing the... -
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Too many favs to name a favourite. But for camaraderie (most writers have to do a day job to pay the bills) "Clerks" a comedy about people working in dead end jobs is full of great lines.
Clerk: "I appreciate your ruse"
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Barb Ristine
I was living somewhere too remote to catch the Social Network at the cinema, then one day his screenplay dropped (I´m not sure how legally) into my inbox. Reading it was so much like watching a movie (which is obviously what every good script is supposed to do) I now don´t feel the need to go and watch it (also a bit worried the film might not be as good as...
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Feel the fear and do it anyway. If you don't practise you won't get better. However if you practise the wrong thing many times it will make the error stick. So you need tune your ears in to the sound of English - do that by listening to as much English as possible (this is so easy as you don't even have to understand 100% percent of what is said (or sung) -...
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Should we just use formal English in a speaking test? In some cultures that would be a given, but what does the culture of IELTS expect from us?
I'd say try to use both "yes" and "yeah" appropriately as this demonstrates your knowledge of formal and informal registers.
Yes and Yeah can be used for lots of purposes.
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With the UK Visa & Immigration test booking criteria, does this mean there are actually four modules.
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Interesting. What word do you put that rhymes with his pronunciation of chair?
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My most nerve wracking test was the notoriously difficult British Driving Test. But I passed first time. How? Well two minutes in I thought I'd just made a pass failing error. Unless you run over a pedestrian or something, in the UK you complete the whole test no matter how many minor or major errors you clock up on the route back to the test centre, and only...
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I'm an English teacher and I think this course will help me to be a better teacher. I'm not just referring to the practical stuff we're going to learn about approaches to the four skills but I'm also hoping to gain some insights from how real IELTS students feel about and deal with the exercises.
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When I was younger I used to whizz through exams without worrying and always got good marks. Now I'm older, I find them more challenging because I no longer believe there is only one right answer or, I end up getting distracted by the exam setter's poor vocab or grammar making their question ambiguous and thus impossible to answer - and the next thing I know...
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Hi, I'm from London but live in Colombia where I teach English.
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The maths lesson was much more "CLILy" whereas the chemistry lesson was much more "TBLTy". Once the maths lesson started to via more into history / classic (who was Pythagoras, where did he live?) it became a bit more "ESOLy" - perhaps this is because maths is a language in and of itself it even has its own alphabet or symbol system. Which seems like quite a...
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Comments here suggest you need a certain level of English to make CLIL work.
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I have no real experience of teaching or learning in this manner (whether you call it CLIL or just common or garden bilingual education). It's tempting to look at the drawbacks for weaker students but surely if these students are identified they can have extra subject or English Language classes as appropriate.
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My own experience as CLIL was somewhat informal. I took a yoga classes in Andalucia, I was the only English person in the room, the teacher was German but conducted the class in fluent Spanish. I learnt a lot of yoga - did my Spanish improve? not really, you'd think this is where I would have at least picked up a lot of parts of the body vocab but years later...
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Dónal Fogarty replied to Chris Lowe
<I think it's easy when teaching, to forget that students need time to think, to form and to produce language>
Good point! Some students bash these tasks out very quickly without challenging themselves to think more deeply to try and use more language - and then they sit there looking bored while the students taking a bit more time complete the task.
