Jan Cantle

Jan Cantle

I am a granny, an artist, and an author. I am mobility and vision impaired. My favourite occupation on line is doing courses.

Location Llanelli



  • @EllaW We hear more of pets dying in cares because children have a right to privacy and cases are usually held in private.

  • Jan Cantle made a comment

    I have definitely enjoyed this course. Sadly for me. I have run out of time before I finished the course. Maybe I will be able to have another go in the future.

  • Pedro went to work, and forgot to drop his baby at nursery - that is something that can and does happen, but parents usually just go back as soon as they realise.
    Pedro however not only forgot to take her to nursery, he did not even realise he had left her alone in the car for several hours.
    This is where his breach of the duty of care happened. He had not...

  • duty of care: this occurs when someone has a responsibility for the well being of another being. It can be parent and child, boss and worker, human and pet among many other instances.
    Ann has no duty of care towards Jane, as missing a birthday card will not do much harm. Antonia has a duty of care to Puzma as it is reasonable to be aware of pedestrians when...

  • I am eager to get to this case.
    Hopefully I have enough common sense and moral compass to get it correct.

  • Negligence requires foreseeability, it is reasonable to expect children to be poor at road safety especially near a school.
    The 4 main elements are duty, breach of duty, foreseeability and damage.
    The law will see Antonia's driving as negligent because she was driving without due care and attention, because she hit a child, she hurt the child and injured...

  • Have we actually been told of Jane's reaction to not receiving a card? Perhaps she was too busy to notice, in the same way Ann was too busy to remember.

  • Mmm, I was wondering how we would continue, and then could not find a video in this segment. My mind completely missed out 'in the next steps'!!

  • 1 Ann did not act, She could have marked her calendar or a note on her phone to prompt her to get a card to her friend.
    2 Antonia did not seem to have any idea she was making a few mistakes. Perhaps she could have gotten into the habit of putting her 'driving head' on before she got into the car. There are checks one does before driving that put you into the...

  • As to the difference between the scenarios, I think forgetting the birthday card was not a serious omission, all other things being equal. Antonia was driving too fast, and made other mistakes. Being distracted by music is a fairly frequent happening - perhaps she had it on too loud for safe driving.
    My husband was a bus driver and when we were on long...

  • Yes, Antonia is responsible for her accident. She is driving over the speed limit, and distracted by the music. She presumable passed by school signs. She does not notice the child running into the road. Statistically injuries are less likely at 20mph.
    The child running into the road is a foreseeable action considering that she is outside a school . This is...

  • @SabineLucas I was given one excuse on the radio. They were discussing why you go from one room to another, wondering why you are in the 2nd room. I do this so often! Apparently when you pass the door your mind thinks, I have finished in her and 'wipes out' the thoughts you had in there. This also wipes out the reason you had for moving to another space....

  • Forgetfulness should be forgiven, some people have mental or physical reasons for forgetting things.
    I think in general we are able to make reminders to help us remember things - but they do not always work.
    There is a different value on some things we forget - forgetting to vote is not and disastrous as not turning up in court if you have a specific time to...

  • She should have put it in the calendar, and thus been reminded about sending the card. The work stress that caused her to forget suggests that she needs to rearrange her work more evenly, or even consult her manager about the amount of work she is expected to do compared to the time she has to do it.
    My friend and I have birthdays 3 days apart and are forever...

  • Having managed to not send cards to my 2 nephews, my daughter in law and my niece in April I feel for Ann's distress.
    I can claim as an excuse a major problem with my carer, But the cards and gifts were made and ready to go, the birthday book was on my desk.
    I contacted them by means of a message on FB but even that did not ease my conscience.
    Jane is...

  • Apply it to the research you have done on the topic so that when you are writing about it you can develop a more in depth essay. Who, what, where, when, why are always a good start when making notes. You can expand them to who did it, who else was involved and I am sure you can work on the others/

  • I enjoyed the quick guide.

  • @JudyMurray In my first 'proper' job I was set to answer the phones. My 17 year old self blithely said: Good Morning, National Bestwinter Wank. How may I help you?

  • I can see how the excuses given can be valid except in the case of laziness. I feel us moving into negligence here. At college one of law lecturers used to ask, if you see a taxi run over his passenger after he has dropped him off, can you as a bystander claim the driver's negligence has affected you?
    Almost everyone got it wrong! The driver running over his...

  • Jan Cantle made a comment

    I am still not sure whether neuroscience yet has a proven place in the legal system.
    These two weeks have been most thought provoking. I am sad that I shall probably not complete the course due to the time restriction and not having the wherewithal to buy into extra time.

  • I do not think the court should admit evidence of brain development is choosing a guilty verdict.
    Evidence of moral development, lack of mental disability or mental illness are both valuable tools.
    Guilt is decided by the jury in most cases; generally 12 adults. It is necessary for the jury to understand the evidence .

  • 1 Does the court correctly formulate the question regarding the adolescent brain?
    A difficult one to answer as there is no question to refer to in the court report. There are arguments for and against the ability of the adolescent brain to know right from wrong. They do tend to be rather circular when it comes to deciding at which age the death penalty is...

  • @RobinLimb My son was a terror, and it was not until he went into a Young Offenders Institution that he was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. Once he was treated daily for this he turned into a rational(?) human being. No more weekend visits to the police station or AandE.
    We had been trying to get help with him since he was 3 - but were told he could go into...

  • I was also reminded of him. I grew up in war tone zones because of my Dad's career. But I did not turn to killing - in fact I find fireworks very distressing still, some 60 years on.

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    Children seem to kill far more now than in my younger days. I did not understand why then and I do not understand now.
    It seems that killings by children alone are not so common, there is often a teenager or other adult involved.
    Knife use often ends up in killing someone, just because a knife is so easy to obtain and use.
    If we are a moral country, we...

  • @MichaelMischler We wlso had conscritption up until the 1960's.

  • I feel strongly that we should have offered help well before then. The fact that they have caused a death does not stop my compassion, they will have to live with that fact in their minds until they die. I will still have compassion for the family and friends' of the victim as well. Compassion is not tied to the malefactor's guilt...

  • @KennyBrown Statistically many prisoners missed out on education through mental problems, dyslexia, being young carers, absenteeism and things they could not change.

  • I hold a Masters in Rehabilitation Counselling, and we were always told that there is usually a reason for people to become addicted to things. And our job was to find that reason and help solve the problems it caused before the client could start on succesful rehabilitation courses. If the reason is, say, an incurable disease, there is little hope of rehab...

  • I was always taught that 'with rights come responsibilities. But is it my right to become addicted to something?

  • These three all seem to say that the drug addict is partially responsible for their behaviour.
    If they have taken a drug just to see how it affects them, to see what it is like, will they have the ability to stop at one go?
    If it is an illness, are the absolved of knowing right from wrong_or do they know and just not care?
    The one certainty is that...

  • Until he decided he wanted to give up gambling for himself my husband would hoard his loose change in a tobacco jar, and count it in secret (he thought). And he would hide in corners and cry desperately that he needed to change himself.
    He did not take any notice of the fact that we were aware of his aberrant behaviour. I do not know what happened, but one...

  • Those addicts who manage to stop are very brave and lucky people.

  • Especially with cocaine - it only takes one dose to get most people hooked.

  • There are often physical signs of substance abuse. Poor skin, wide pupils, poor veins and track marks, sometimes an unkempt appearance.
    Addiction to gambling is usually only noticeable in the later stages, where there is a haunted look in the eyes, maybe a physical tremor at the sight of money or a gambling machine, a reluctance to open bills and...

  • My father made me think when he said to a diabetic nurse, It is not will power I need to eat less - it's won't power!

  • I do not think the person who is addicted to drugs is necessarily responsible for their actions except in the very early stages of addiction. Different things have different times within which addiction sets in: cocaine can take only one dose to make you depend upon it, and as it affects your brain you need more and more to get the same effect.
    Many doctors...

  • @LaurenM I go to a knit and natter group each week, and I have plans to speak to two different people each week - and to make it more than one sentence!

  • @LaurenM I think your plan is easy to manage.

  • Do you find it odd that we talk about drugs, and then add alcohol and tobacco as separate problems? They are all addictive drugs ie. mind altering substances.

  • Mostly here we are talking about drugs and alcohol, but of you have an addictive personality you can get addicted to anything - even jelly babies!

  • For all the 45 years of our marriage, my husband would get a glazed look like an epileptic when he saw the machines in the pub or elsewhere. Thankfully he won his battle with gambling.

  • I have severe chronic pain, and for a while I was prescribed methadone. New pharmacy staff looked at me oddly when I came to collect my prescription. If you are not an addict, it is given as a sub-lingual tablet which tastes vial. Addicts were given a liquid dose which did not affect the palate as much.

  • @BeeGreene I was at a Gamblers Anonymous Meeting and a policeman said the way to stop drug addiction was to lock up all the 'pushers' as then the addicts would not be able to get the drugs.
    Every time I went to GA to see my husband be celebrating another year free of gambling, I was astonished at the bravery of those in the room trying to take back control...

  • In some areas I would agree with you - but not in gambling addiction.

  • And often not successful.

  • My husband was a compulsive gambler.
    There was no support from the NHS at the time he was doing it. Nowadays gambling is the only non-substance related addiction recognised by the NHS.
    Almost all addictions can be temporarily overcome, by following the 12 step programme which has been adapted for use in many addictions.
    It is important to remember that you...

  • @PeterMa A useful reminder. Thank you.

  • Would a sleep study have been helpful has been the bit I have had most trouble with. If the accused only sleepwalks occasionally, how can you hope to do the study and hit a night of somnambulism? Is there a particular part of the brain that would indicate the subject is a sleepwalker?
    And what about night terrors? If they occur in adulthood I can see how...

  • I think the similarities are based around the sleepwalking.
    From what I have read, sleep is a form of 'light coma' and the body cannot be aware of what is happening. In the same way someone in a coma can hear you, can grip your hands and appear awake, If your brain is this disconnected I cannot see how it, or the mind can form an intent to harm...

  • Yes, the fact that sleepwalking occurs during the deepest sleep makes me think we are not aware of what we are doing.

  • Sleepwalking occurs during deep sleep.

  • I think sleepwalking may be a defence if the event is clearly out of character. After all, dreaming is often extremely real and we can be convinced by our minds that what we are experiencing in the dream is truly happening.

    Because he was dreaming that someone was attacking his wife in his dream state it seemed to be happening in real life, and so Mr....

  • @PatriciaWormald I have to take a medicine that says 'Warning Taking too much .... can be fatal.' There are many other medicines available, but this one is cheap, so most patients start out on it.....
    And yet cannabis was taken off prescription in the 1970's because of 'possible side effects'. There have been other drugs prescribed in my life that are more...

  • @BamdadAziz There was a case in Wales where an electronic tag was put on a persons prosthetic leg!
    He did not go out of bounds once in all the time he was wearing the tag.

  • Yes. I think the insanity defense has to be available to prevent miscarriages of justice where people are mentally ill or unstable or unable to understand.
    I believe there was a case in the last days of hanging in Britain where a mentally challenged man was hung, and afterwards ,on appeal, was found to have been unfit to plead. This was sometine in the...

  • I did not vote in the poll because I though the question was not clear enough - maybe some more punctuation might have helped me understand it better.

  • 'One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.' I was told this by a soldier who was considering the dichotomy by what he had been ordered to do and what was right.

  • I think that the amount of planning before the incident seems to indicate that he knew what he was doing. But did he know it was wrong? The age of criminal responsibility is set at an age when the 'normal' person understands the difference between right and wrong. But, is there any definition of 'a normal person'? I f somebody has a diminished IQ through...

  • I feel that there are fewer people who can claim that they did not know the difference between right and wrong.

  • @MelDeo I honestly cannot see why having a privileged background should absolve him from responsibility. Everyone, even many mentally ill people should know the difference between right and wrong.

  • I believe that in the USA to be eligible for parole you have to acknowledge that you committed the crime, and regret it. How many people have been kept in prison when they did not do the crime, and cannot acknowledge that they did it and thus cannot regret it?
    There is a film about this dilemma, but I cannot remember the name.

  • I think one must decide if he was mentally ill,and unable to control his behaviour. He was definitely morally unable to decide.

  • I found it interesting that when the behaviour recurred he was unsure what caused it. I also note that he was not just interested in pedophilia when he had the tumour, but was interested in more sex than was normal for him.

  • I am glad we have a system that allows for relying on previous decisions only when several have been looked at.

  • A family member has been tried recently on charges of child neglect. When he tried to say he was mentally unfit to plead he was told if he followed this course he would go into a psychiatric hospital for an unspecified period. I found this quite frightening as there is no legal limit to the period in hospital. At least is you plead and are guilty the length...

  • I felt the quiz in the previous section was very unfair in that most of thequestions could be answered positively or negatively depending on one's opinion.

  • My husband died of dementia, and towards the end of his life, his mind was missing. FMRI's have been done that show that people at this end of dementia there is no brain activity except that connected to automatic functions like breathing. So, how do we explain the violence that some dementia parents show at the end of life? Could they be found guilty of a...

  • As a partially sighted artist I am also interested in the perception of colours. In class one day, we were painting people. I mixed what I was sure were three different flesh tones. On showing them to others in class my colleagues almost all said they were three patches of the same colour.
    Even in those who are not colour blind there are often difficulties...

  • Would the FMRI work with people who do not know the difference between right and wrong? I believe that psychopaths either do not know the difference or completely ignore it.
    This makes me wonder how many exceptions to the statement that we can decipher blood flow in the brain to give us proof what that person is using the brain for?
    In my opinion,...

  • Certain psychological conditions are characterised by the subject being adamant that 'they are right'. Would this affect the fMRI results?

  • When I was writing my MSc dissertation, I was told that I had to put in the 'conclusions' that there was a need for more research. That seems very true here.

  • I feel that generally when you have two experts, you may well get three opinions - one from each of them and a compromise they both agree on.

  • From what I read on the GOSH website, the fMRI procedure is not intrinsically stressful. After the test, your child can get up and go home it says. It also stresses that it is a non-invasive procedure.

  • ' Numerous methodological artifacts are constantly being discovered, and reviews by eminent methodologists have estimated that as many as fifty percent of published studies are wrong or not reproducible.'
    I believe these three passages show why the link between law and neuroscience is not yet sturdy enough to use them to determine legal liability.

  • I shall quote the passages I believe are relevant to the questions.
    'Failure to understand the relationship between neuroscience data and legal criteria has produced confused judicial decisions about whether proffered neuroscience evidence in criminal cases is genuinely relevant. ' This would be an argument against using neuroscience as it was when the...

  • Unless there is a simpler way of explaining what is happening, I don't think it will work very well in court.
    I see no reason why a judge or a member of the jury would have the necessary skills to interpret the evidence.....you need a neuroscience who is a skilled communicator to do this.
    I cannot see the jury being wowed by this sort of evidence, to my mind...

  • During a counselling MSc we had to watch a mute tv and decide what was happening based only on what we could see. Most of us got it right, by observing the body language.

  • I believe the 'lie detector' relies on you first answering test questions both truly and falsely. It marks small physiological changes in the body - blood pressure; temperature and others. I have rheumatoid arthritis, which is known to raise your temperature when it is active. Could this be interpreted as my lying?