Neil McIntyre
I am a Knowledge Exchange Associate, Affiliate in Theology and Religious Studies, and former Lecturer in Scottish History at the University of Glasgow.
Location Glasgow
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
The missing words:
particulars
witchcraft
examinedThe final entry:
The which day the Brethren thought fit to advise the
Magistrats of Lanarke to dismisse Marion Hunter one
of the suspected persones of the crime of witchcraft out
of prison, and to goe home upon sufficient caution given
to the said Magistrats of Lanarke that shee shall... -
The samme day James Baird wes called upoun at the doore who
not Compearing is ordanit to be wairned to ye nixt day -
23 of Ja[nua]ry 1638
Margaret Law being delivered of ane child in our
burt [burgh] desired the minister Mr James Duncan to
baptise hir child and declaired that the child was
ane Mr Andrew Law Scoolmaster at the Kirk
of Mearns in the presbitrie of Dundie. Whilk being
tryed, it was was so. and thereftir shee went bak to
the said Kirk and gave satisfaction. -
upon the 14th of March. 1689. Who accordingly
haveing conveened and considered the severall Grievances
-this Nation did labour under, both in Church by Bish=
-opes, and in State by Evill Counsellours and Ministers
imployed by the late king James, did on the 11th of
Aprill. 1689. Abolish Episcopacy, and that manner of
Church Government so grievous to this... -
There having been ane Al=
tera[tio]n of Government in this kingdome, both
in Church and State, among Officers both Civill
and Ecclesiastical, by the Comeing over of the Prince
of Orange in November. 5th. 1688. to England, occa=
-sioned through the fear of Popery and Slavery, under
the former Governments, by reason of the Arbitrary pow=
-er of the late... -
1689.
The Overtures, Resolutiones, Acts
and Conclusiones of the Session of Cra=
-mond Church, Dureing Mr John Ha=
-milton’s Ministry in Cramond haveing
exercised his Ministry in Ireland from the
year jajvict and seventy five, until this year
jajvict and Eighty Nyn years) And part=
-cularly from his Entry to this paroch of
Cramond, as to the Exercise... -
To the Deacons
1 Do you orderly keep up the worship of God in your families morning and evening
And Instruct your children and servants with all care that their conversation be
=coming
2 Do ye diligently visite your Quarters and inquire into the state of the poor,
they may be timeously represented for supply
when the Elders & Deacons is removed the... -
Questions to be asked of Elders & Deacons at the privy censures of Sessions
agreed to by the Synod of Glasgow and Air october 1724 and to be recorded in each
Session Register
To Elders
1 Do ye orderly keep up the worship of God in your familys morning & evening
and Instruct your children and servants with all care that their conversation […]
2 Do you... -
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Neil McIntyre replied to Marsha H
You're quite right about the control of the kirk session, @MarshaH. But I would also say that the session had a more positive role in its provision of 'social services' - especially poor relief (see John McCallum's recent fantastic book on this subject). I would also note that, while the records are certainly evidence of the institutional reach of the Kirk and...
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Neil McIntyre replied to Caitlin Dampier
Thanks for your comment, @CaitlinDampier - examples to transcribe are coming in Week 3!
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Neil McIntyre replied to James Macnair Bassi
Looking forward to seeing your transcription efforts, @JamesMacnairBassi !
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Hi @SisterBarbaraJeanBrown. These are wise words! Practise is key when it comes to palaeography and we wholeheartedly encourage you to watch the videos as often as you can!
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Good point, @AnneElizabethMacnair - the demands of parish offices did not always make the positions attractive!
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Neil McIntyre replied to joe d
Another one for @JamieKelly!
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Hi @JodyAllen. I discuss this in Week 2!
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Neil McIntyre replied to Jody Allen
@JamieKelly
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They were actually very different processes, @Ríobárd(Rob)StuartWilliams. For example, the English Reformation was 'magisterial' - it was led by the monarch - while in Scotland the Reformation was carried in defiance of the Crown.
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Hi @JodyAllen. I'm afraid burgh records are not held in a central repository. You can search for them here: http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/scancatalogue/search.aspx
As for the records of crafts, a list of those held in the NRS can be found here: https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/crafts-and-trades
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Hi @FaithF - there is a glossary of terms in Week 2 and further guidance on the Scots tongue in Week 3!
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Hi everyone. I will provide transcriptions of the documents at the end of the week. Good luck!
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
Hi everyone. Very well done for completing Week 2! You've covered a lot of ground thus far. Many thanks for your wonderful comments. Next week you will learn transcription techniques and have the opportunity to transcribe extracts from the kirk session records. We look forward to seeing you then!
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
Digital images of the kirk session records can be accessed at the National Records of Scotland and at selected archives across Scotland. See here for more details: https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/church-court-records-online
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Hi @AliceScarlett. Do you mean the in-video text, or more generally? I will look into this.
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Neil McIntyre replied to Linda Street-Ely
Hi @LindaStreet-Ely. You've asked what was arguably the single-most vexed question in early modern Scottish history!
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Neil McIntyre replied to emma B
Hi @emmaB. Sorry, but I've double-checked the quiz answer and it is correct!
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Neil McIntyre replied to joe d
Another interesting question, @joed. The interaction between handwriting and print is a fascinating but under-researched topic. It certainly wasn't all one-way traffic (i.e. print leading to the standardising of handwriting).
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Interesting question, @JaniceGibson. I would say the lack of standardisation doesn't necessarily mean there weren't certain expectations with regards to spelling. That said, I would also note that it is not uncommon (indeed, it is rather frequent) to see only one 'm' used by less professional writers!
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Neil McIntyre replied to Gillian Loose
@MarshaH In the interim, you could request access to John Scally's doctoral thesis on the third Marquess/first Duke (1606-1649)
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Neil McIntyre replied to joe d
Great question, @joed. You're quite right - there certainly can be limitations to our transcription. Palaeographers debate these issues frequently, and there is no uniform standard for academic history. Lionel covers some of this in Week 3.
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
Hello to all the new recruits! Don't worry if you're starting a little later, there is plenty of time to catch up. We hope you enjoy the first week!
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Neil McIntyre replied to Jennifer Shaw
Hi @JenniferShaw (and @StephenGarbett). Contractions can be frustrating, especially when there isn't consistency within a document. However, the more familiar you become with a particular writer, the more you will start to recognise patterns in the handwriting. Words and letters you've successfully transcribed can be used as a way of uncovering those you're...
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Neil McIntyre replied to Linda Street-Ely
Hi @LindaStreet-Ely. Digital images of the kirk session records can be viewed at the National Records of Scotland and at selected archives across Scotland. See here for more details: https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/church-court-records-online
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Neil McIntyre replied to Ruth Wyllie
Hi @RuthWyllie. The answer to this question is actually quite complicated, as historians do not agreement on the precise definition. They were a landholding class, but did not have an automatic right to sit in parliament as nobles did. Some could hold barony courts, others could not. In socio-economic terms, lairds varied significantly - some had sprawling...
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Thanks, @AlanMacKenzie, I'm glad you found it useful. Your question is perfectly reasonable, and the answer straight-forward: the more context the palaeographer has at their disposal, the easier it is to decipher historical handwriting. This will become apparent in the forthcoming videos!
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Hi @BobH. The recent work of Douglas Watt is a safe place to start. See e.g. The Price of Scotland (2007). You can also find documents relating to the venture here: https://archive.org/details/darienpapersbein00bann/page/n4
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Neil McIntyre replied to Noki Trias
Hi Noki. Your idea is one we would love to support - I will give this some thought. In the interim, Twitter is a great place to post your palaeography puzzles! You can follow me here: https://twitter.com/mcintyre_drneil
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Neil McIntyre replied to C Orr
Hi @COrr. Lionel uses both English and Scottish examples because there was much crossover in our period, and English examples are useful for getting the basics down before progressing to the often trickier Scottish ones. Scottish sources are coming, I can assure you!
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Neil McIntyre replied to Gillian Loose
Hi @GillianLoose. The House of Hamilton was a major player in early modern Scottish politics. James Hamilton, 1st Lord Hamilton, had married the daughter of James II in 1474, so the family had close relations with the royal House of Stewart - and a claim to the throne! While not all Hamiltons were strictly related, they were bound by ties of fictive kinship,...
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
Very well done to you all for completing the first week! We're enjoying following your progress and greatly appreciate your comments and feedback. Onwards to Week 2!
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Neil McIntyre replied to Steve Denmark
Thanks for raising this, @SteveDenmark - I'll take a look and make any necessary adjustments for future iterations of the course.
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Neil McIntyre replied to Barbara Gurney
Very well done, @BarbaraGurney - great to hear your skills are improving and useful to know that the contextual material is helpful.
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Neil McIntyre replied to Penny W
I'll pass on your kind words to Lionel, @PennyW - his presentation is flawless!
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Thanks @DouglasHope - we appreciate the feedback and will incorporate it into future iterations of the course.
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Neil McIntyre replied to Dr Graham Smith
Glad you enjoyed the first week, @DrGrahamSmith. Let us know how you get on with the tutorials!
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
This isn't a 'dates and names' course, folks, so don't worry about remembering all of the above. The overview is to help contextualise the records you will be engaging with.
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An entirely relevant thought, @RuthWyllie ! Discussion of federalism today tends to forget there had been a brief confederal experiment in the mid-seventeenth century.
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Neil McIntyre replied to Wendy Tait
@WendyTait Hi Wendy. The work of Maureen Meikle on the eastern borders and Anna Groundwater on the Middle March might be worth consulting if this is an area that interests you particularly.
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Neil McIntyre replied to joe d
I loved this comment, Joe. We really enjoyed putting this course together, so I am so pleased to hear you enjoyed it last time out. Your comment is also a great reminder to your fellow learners that palaeography is, above all else, about practise. However, like riding a bike, the principles should return to you quickly!
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
Hi everyone! Delighted to meet you all. I'll be following your progress over the next three weeks and will do my best to answer your queries. We hope you enjoy the course!
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@KathleenKerryDexter You're welcome!
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Hi Sarah. It means appearing formally in court.
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Nicely done, Maxine!
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I agree, Colleen. When I came across this entry I knew we had to use it for the course!
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Good deductive work, Cynthia!
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Very well done, Nan!
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@MaureenBowler Hi Maureen. 'Jaj' represents 1000, 'vi' represents 6, and 'ct' is a contraction of the Latin word 'centus', meaning 100. So, when combined, we get 1600.
For more information on dates like these, please see: http://www.scottishhandwriting.com/cmPSdat.asp
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
The missing words:
particulars
witchcraft
examinedThe final entry:
The which day the Brethren thought fit to advise the
Magistrats of Lanarke to dismisse Marion Hunter one
of the suspected persones of the crime of witchcraft out
of prison, and to goe home upon sufficient caution given
to the said Magistrats of Lanarke, that shee shall be... -
The samme day James Baird wes called upoun at the doore who
not Compearing is ordanit to be wairned ye nixt day -
23 of Ja[nua]ry 1638
Margaret Law being delivered of ane child in our
burt desired the minister Mr James Duncan to
baptise hir child and declaired that the child was
ane Mr Andrew Law Scoolmaster at the Kirk
of Mearns in the presbitrie of Dundie. Whilk being
tryed, it was was so. and thereftir shee went bak to
the said Kirk and gave satisfaction. -
-ed to the Prince of Orange the Grievances of this Church
and Nation, There was Likewise allowed and Called in
-this kingdome of Scotland a Convention of the Severall
Estates of this kingdome and Nation to sitt at Edinburgh,
upon the 14th of March. 1689. Who accordingly
haveing conveened and considered the severall Grievances
-this Nation did labour... -
There having been ane Al=
tera[tio]n of Government in this kingdome, both
in Church and State, among Officers both Civill
and Ecclesiastical, by the Comeing over of the Prince
of Orange in November. 5th. 1688. to England, occa=
-sioned through the fear of Popery and Slavery, under
the former Governments, by reason of the Arbitrary pow=
-er of the late... -
Decem: 6th: 1689. Friday after Sermon, Sederunt in Session,
Mr John Hamilton Minister, Alexander Howison of Braehead,
Wm: Johnstoun, Arch: Robison, Ja: Spottiswood, Ja: Potter, John,
Aikman, Mr Thomas Forrest Session Clerk -
1689.
The Overtures, Resolutiones, Acts
and Conclusiones of the Session of Cra=
-mond Church, Dureing Mr John Ha=
-milton’s Ministry in Cramond haveing
exercised his Ministry in Ireland from the
year jajvict and seventy five, until this year
jajvict and Eighty Nyn years) And parti=
-cularly from his Entry to this paroch of
Cramond, as to the Exercise... -
To the Deacons
1 Do you orderly keep up the worship of God in your families morning and evening
And Instruct your children and servants with all care that their conversation be
=coming
2 Do ye diligently visite your Quarters and inquire into the state of the poor,
they may be timeously represented for supply
when the Elders & Deacons is removed the... -
Questions to be asked of Elders & Deacons at the privy censures of Sessions
agreed to by the Synod of Glasgow and Air october 1724 and to be recorded in each
Session RegisterTo Elders
1 Do ye orderly keep up the worship of God in your familys morning & evening
and Instruct your children and servants with all care that their conversation be […]
2 Do... -
Hi everyone. Transcriptions of the documents will go up at the end of the week!
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Neil McIntyre replied to elizabeth H
@WilmaBrodie You may wish to consult Scottish Handwriting, 1150-1650, by Grant Simpson.
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Neil McIntyre replied to elizabeth H
Hi Elizabeth. Lionel runs an early modern palaeography course for the MSc in Information Management & Preservation at the University of Glasgow. I'll mention to him the desire for a beginner's book!
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Hi Melissa. This is an interesting question, but one which cannot be easily answered in a few sentences! There are, certainly, references to conventicles in kirk session and presbytery records after 1660, but they tend to be rather limited when compared to the rich evidence in the Scottish Privy Council registers. As religious dissent was equated with...
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Hi Allan. Excommunication was an intentionally lengthy process. The first Book of Discipline stipulated that proceedings 'ought to be grave and slow' in the hope of reclaiming the sinner. As a result, several steps were to be followed, which developed subsequently to include the pronouncement of 'lesser' and 'greater' sentences. The 'greater' was only used...
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
Hi everyone. Many thanks for the comments - we appreciate you taking the time to leave us questions and feedback. We are delighted that you are enjoying the course. Good luck with week 2!
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Hi Margaret. The plague was a major problem during the civil wars. Edinburgh was hit in 1645, Glasgow in 1646 and Aberdeen in 1647.
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Neil McIntyre replied to Fiona McKinlay
@FionaMcKinlay Hi Fiona. Alexandra is quite right. There was a substantial degree of crossover between Scottish and English handwriting by the seventeenth century, and we wanted to give you a grounding in the basics before progressing to the more complex Scottish kirk session records to be transcribed later in the course.
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Well-spotted! I was copying and pasting out of a MS Word document and missed some of the text.
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@MargaretCollin Well-spotted! I was copying and pasting out of a MS Word document and missed some of the text.
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@MargaretKlinger Hi Margaret. Yes, they are pinned in the comments section for steps 3.15, 3.17, 3.18, 3.19 and 3.22.
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Hi Isabel. I added the commas for the sake of flow, but there is a comma after 'Lanarke' on line 5. The word 'brethren' is indeed capitalised in the text.
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Hi Isabel. I added the commas for the sake of flow, but there is a comma after 'Lanarke' on line 5. The word 'brethren' is indeed capitalised in the text.
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@PaulConnell Hi Paul. Yes, I should probably have added '[of]' in my transcription.
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@AndreaCastano Hi Andrea. No need to apologise! I think you've nailed it.
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
The missing words:
particulars
witchcraft
examinedThe final entry:
The which day, the Brethren thought fit to advise the Magistrats of Lanarke to dismisse Marion Hunter, one of the suspected persones of the crime of witchcraft, out of prison, and to goe home, upon sufficient caution given to the said Magistrats of Lanarke, that shee shall be...
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The samme day James Baird wes called upoun at the doore who
not compearing is ordanit to be wainned [i.e. carried] to ye nixt day -
23 of Ja[nua]ry 1638
Margaret Law being delivered of ane child in our
burt desired the minister Mr James Duncan to
baptise hir child and declaired that the child was
ane Mr Andrew Law Scoolmaster at the Kirk
of Mearns in the presbitrie of Dundie. Whilk being
tryed, it was was so. and thereftir shee went bak to
the said Kirk and gave satisfaction. -
haveing conveened and considered the severall Grievances
-this Nation did labour under, both in Church by Bish=
-opes, and in State by Evill Counsellours and Ministers
imployed by the late king James, did on the 11th of
Aprill. 1689. Abolish Episcopacy, and that manner of
Church Government so grievous to the disposition of the people,
who since the year.... -
There having been ane Al=
tera[tio]n of Government in this kingdome, both
in Church and State, among Officers both Civill
and Ecclesiastical, by the Comeing over of the Prince
of Orange in November. 5th. 1688. to England, occa=
-sioned through the fear of Popery and Slavery, under
the former Governments, by reason of the Arbitrary pow=
-er of the late... -
Decem: 6th: 1689. Friday after Sermon, Sederunt in Session,
Mr John Hamilton Minister, Alexander Howison of Braehead,
Wm: Johnstoun, Arch: Robison, Ja: Spottiswood, Ja: Potter, John,
Aikman, Mr Thomas Forrest Session Clerk -
1689.
The Overtures, Resolutiones, Acts
and Conclusiones of the Session of Cra=
-mond Church, Dureing Mr John Ha=
-milton’s Ministry in Cramond haveing
exercised his Ministry in Ireland from the
year jajvict and seventy five, until this year
jajvict and Eighty Nyn years) And part=
-cularly from his Entry to this paroch of
Cramond, as to the Exercise... -
To the Deacons
1 Do you orderly keep up the worship of God in your families morning and evening
And Instruct your children and servants with all care that their conversation be
=coming2 Do ye diligently visite your Quarters and inquire into the state of the poor,
they may be timeously represented for supplywhen the Elders & Deacons is removed the...
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Questions to be asked of Elders & Deacons at the privy censures of Sessions
agreed to by the Synod of Glasgow and Air october 1724 and to be recorded in each
Session RegisterTo Elders
1 Do ye orderly keep up the worship of God in your familys morning & evening
and Instruct your children and servants with all care that their conversation […]2 Do...
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@MargaretKlinger Hi Margaret. I want to allow those who started later a chance to try the transcriptions on their own before I provide the transcripts. The relevant transcription will be pinned in the comments section below. Please check back at the end of the week.
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
Hi everyone. We'd like to thank you all for taking the course - it has been an absolute pleasure to follow your progress and your feedback throughout was invaluable. It was also wonderful to hear about your interests and to watch you working together. We hope you continue to practise your new skills and put them to good use.
As noted above, the Scottish...
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@JoanReid Hi Joan. I'll post the relevant transcription in the comments section below and pin it. However, I want to wait a little longer to allow those who started later a chance to try them on their own.
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@AndreaCastano I thoroughly enjoyed following your progress, Andrea. Well done!
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Excellent work, Duncan!
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Neil McIntyre made a comment
Hi everyone. If you would like more information on Scottish witch-hunts, see the further reading below:
Julian Goodare (ed.), Scottish Witches and Witch-Hunters (Basingstoke, 2013)
Julian Goodare (ed.), The Scottish Witch-Hunt in Context (Manchester, 2002)
Paula Hughes, 'The 1649-50 Scottish witch-hunt: with particular reference to the synod of...
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Neil McIntyre replied to Keith McGraw
Hi Keith. As far as I'm aware the NRS will be making them available online very soon. Until then, digital images of the minute books can be viewed on-site and at selected archives across Scotland.
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Hi everyone. I'll provide transcriptions of the examples in due course. Be sure to check back here at the end of the week, but until then, keep practising!
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Neil McIntyre replied to Paul Connell
Excellent point, Paul, and something we'll aim to mention in future editions of the course. It's fair to say I've shown my Weegie bias here!
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@DavidStewart Hi David. I will be posting transcriptions at the end of the course.
