Sarah Jones
Sarah has over a decade of experience in research data management and open science. She is involved in many international initiatives such as the European Open Science Cloud & Research Data Alliance.
Location Glasgow, Scotland
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Sarah Jones replied to Judith Brands
It's always good to get multiple viewpoints anyhow. Nobody has the full picture and getting different opinions helps to open up conversation about what is really needed and agree priorities
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Sarah Jones replied to Samuel Ebenya
Great! Glad you like it
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Sarah Jones replied to Samuel Ebenya
Great! Hope you're enjoying the course Samuel
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Sarah Jones replied to Elize E
@ElizeE This sounds great. Where do you work? Could possibly be a case study we add in future if you're amenable?
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Sarah Jones replied to Elize E
@JudithBrands Really important point Judith. Policies and services need to be defined with researcher input. Don't build it and find... they don't come!
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Sarah Jones made a comment
Glad you're all finding this useful
Please also share critical comments. If there are things you miss or expected to see let us know. We hope to update the course in future so can address this
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Sarah Jones replied to Bamdad Aziz
Great understanding Bamdad. Openness is the key driver at Delft and part of the overall University mission
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Delft have been really proactive in building support into tools too. They use the "request feedback" feature in DMPonline and direct requests to the relevant data steward in each faculty so researchers can get tailored feedback on their Data Management Plan
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Sarah Jones replied to Solomon ririoa
Completely agree. I really like their focus on researcher needs
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Sarah Jones replied to Burcu Ortakaya
If you can build in incentives for researchers too that will help. Policies have more effect on risk adverse types like senior management in my experience, while visibly saving time or getting credit is more likely to persuade researchers
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I'm going to put you in touch with Francoise Genova as she's a leader in RDM in astronomy and helped the community develop many of its standards
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There are lots of DMPs published online. You'll learn about some of these during the course but by all means ask for pointers if you can't find relevant ones
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Great to see people still joining. Post any questions you have in the forum and we can pick them up
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Hi Deborah. Great to have people from all around the world. Please share the Brazilian examples
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Excellent - welcome to the course
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Sarah Jones replied to Elize E
Excellent thanks. It's fine to use the paper model than online tool if preferred
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Sarah Jones replied to Elize E
This is fine. No problem not to share Elize.
Most people haven't got to week 2 yet, but it may be worth checking in next week and adding comments on other people's responses. There may be similar experiences emerging -
Sarah Jones replied to Elize E
There have been several additional uses since we developed the MOOC. A group from Potsdam did a paper on this at the last IDCC conference and a workshop. See links below:
Paper - https://zenodo.org/record/3565440#.Xlf5p6j7TIU
Workshop - http://www.dcc.ac.uk/events/idcc20/workshop4
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Sarah Jones replied to Elize E
This sounds great - thanks for commenting @ElizeE
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Sarah Jones replied to Anja M
Hi Anja. Great question. Some smaller universities like Westminster and London South Bank University have adopted Haplo. See for example this paper and case study - https://insights.uksg.org/articles/10.1629/2048-7754.152/print/ and https://www.haplo-services.com/docs/Haplo_Repository_Case_Study_University_of_Westminster.pdf
In the DCC institutional...
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Yes, it is fixed for me now
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Yes completely agree. A plan should change and be updated
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Excellent, hope you enjoy the course
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Excellent, welcome Henry
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@LeenLiefsoens Great, thanks for sharing
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Great. Glad you're learning new things
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Sarah Jones replied to Tom Blom
If you purchase a certificate you get continual access to all the content, but the videos are also available outside of the platform I think. Will check this and post a link.
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It's fantastic to see how many of you have joined the course and how international it is. Please add to the forums and learn from us and each other.
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Welcome to the course!
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Welcome to the course Valentina. This MOOC will cover RDM services, but if you want to learn about researchers data management practices too there are some others courses and best practice guides which would be useful. I have put some links below:
MANTRA: https://mantra.edina.ac.uk/
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Sarah Jones made a comment
Some really interesting comments and examples on the padlet - thanks all :)
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Sarah Jones replied to Elize E
Hi @ElizeE I suspect you were the first to comment as there are more in the padlet now
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Sarah Jones replied to Samuel Ebenya
Thanks
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There are various risks with service delivery
- getting too much / too little traffic which can make it hard to scale or make a case for sustainability
- not having a good understanding of or access to end users
- losing key staff which can make delivery difficult
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Sarah Jones replied to Elize E
When institutions or funders require deposit in a set repository, that inevitably has different levels of access as you can't force everyhting to be open. Some repositories like Edinburgh DataShare focus on Open Data and point to other services if content can't be shared.
It's not uncommon policy wise to require data to be shared once findings are published...
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Thanks for flagging this Danuta. A page of contact for the data stewards is here: https://www.tudelft.nl/en/library/current-topics/research-data-management/r/support/data-stewardship/contact/
Ellen, are you able to confirm if this is the right page?
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Sarah Jones replied to Samuel Ebenya
This varies by institution. Some may give basic support services (e.g. a certain quota of storage, access to training and consultations) free of charge. If several hours or weeks of staff time are costed into a proposal, this would usually be charged.
Some repositories charge for large datasets too e.g.
Cambridge uni - £4/GB for datasets above 20GB...
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Good question Elize. Both processes could be termed 'cleaning' Often data archives will do processing steps to make the data ready for sharing which may be similar to processing and documentation that researchers do during data analysis. The DCC Lifecycle Model (which is a more complicated version of what is presented here) indicates activities undertaken by...
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Sarah Jones replied to Kate K
Bristol have done some really fantastic work around sensitive data services too. See this recent talk given by Zosia Beckles last week at IDCC https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3673875 And also the great Researchers, Impact and Publications (R.I.P.) game by Kirsty Merrett https://data.bris.ac.uk/data/dataset/1nufzjw3m9ho72cwisj1pwc75h
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Sarah Jones replied to Cinzia Martone
Sometimes the most interesting things made with your data are done by someone else :-)
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Completely agree Jessica. I think it's really important for content creators (researchers) to discuss with curators (e.g. repository managers) to ensure the way the data are made available suits access needs.
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Good point Raffaella. Often librarians and RDM support staff aren't actively involved in the data analysis, but there are an increasing number of data stewards, research software engineer and data scientist roles that bridge research and support communities. Perhaps someone from that are can provide some advice?
One course that may be useful to look at is...
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Hi all.
Thanks so much for joining and adding comments to introduce yourselves.
I'm Sarah, one of the instructors, and work at the Digital Curation Centre in Scotland. I originally trained as an archivist and now work in RDM and Open Science. I run the DMPonline service and do various training courses for DCC, OpenAIRE and FOSTER Open Science. I also...
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great to have you on board Boudewijn
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Hi Burcu - thanks for joining. Great to see you getting involved in RDM services. I haven't forgotten your email on this either. Now we've run IDCC I'll get to clearing the inbox. Enjoy the course!
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Sarah Jones replied to Lesley Mostert
Very good point Lesley. We originally had some content on engaging researchers and I think that and some case studies of storage solutions would be worth adding
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Yes, I agree. We originally had much more content but pared things down on advice of the pedagogical team. I think this is an area where we should add more though
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Nice idea. That's definitely something we could look to add
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Good point @DanCroft
There are some really nice resources on engaging researchers:
- https://www.data.cam.ac.uk/events/engaging-researchers-good-data-management-2017-conference
- https://www.openbookpublishers.com/product/1080And some unis link storage allocation to DMPs to ensure researchers think about this early on and don't have DUDs (Data Under...
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Sarah Jones replied to Maria Vivas-Romero
@MariaVivas-Romero Sounds good. There's a lot of data security and handling sensitive data, but I think you're at a medical uni so that's natural. It may be cover to emphasise how data can be shared within these constraints and use case studies and exercises to help people apply learning as Paolo says.
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Sarah Jones replied to Virginia Wilson
We used a case study like this in the CODATA/RDA data science school last time and I think it really helps the participants to contextualise the theory. I've always found that having researchers speak from practice is the most convincing and compelling too. Definitely good to bring people in to give personal tales
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Sarah Jones replied to Lesley Mostert
Kirsten Briney did a great series of short videos which are worth looking at for ideas. See example here: http://dataabinitio.com/?p=501
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Sarah Jones replied to Lorna Wildgaard
I like the idea of pre-reading or watching so you can get hands-on in the training. Food always helps too!
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Sounds great. Let us know how you get on
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Sarah Jones replied to Dan Croft
Glasgow uni did lab based sessions so researchers could write their DMP in the session and get advice from support staff at the time. They left having completed a task on their to-do list so that helped to give a direct benefit from training
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@PalomaMarínArraiza This is great. Have you seen the AuthoryCarpentry course? This covers ORCID and bibtext too https://authorcarpentry.github.io/
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Sarah Jones replied to Alexis Vicioso
I agree that training should be short. People zone out if sessions are too long. You also want to break things up with exercises to test and reinforce the learning. Webinars can work really well too as they can be recorded
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Sarah Jones made a comment
Really glad to hear you are all finding this useful. Thanks for all the contributions :-)
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Definitely invest in google keywords and ensure you hit top of lists. This is how most people will find you. I only ever search for certain webpages via google as their internal search is hopeless!
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@PhilippConzett Nice example Philipp. I like a minimal amount of scroll too. It's a hard balance to draw, but more pages and less scroll is my preference
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I find images help too. It's hard to read big swathes of text online
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This is quite often the case and can be really confusing to researchers. Getting people together at the uni to have a place that signposts off to other sites can help provide a single overview
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Good to hear Vanessa. Glad the examples are providing inspiration
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Great advice! I'll be using this myself Linda :)
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Sarah Jones replied to Maria Vivas-Romero
The websites look good Maria. The guide is very comprehensive and it is helpful to be able to search for tools/services and staff contacts so easily. We were always asked for names of people who could help in each faculty.
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Good questions Felix.
I agree with some of what you say - no need to replicate when there are good resources already - but what I've learned from work with several unis is that most people can't find good resources and get overwhelmed by the amount of (often conflicting!) information. And within unis it is often not clear who can help with what.
If I...
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Sarah Jones replied to Bill Corey
@LindaWagner @BillCorey I would be interested to explore why more don't use DataVerse over big for-profit options too. Sometimes I think unis are scared of open source and think it will be harder to resource, even if the other option costs so much more.
Regarding the "Just staying up-2-date with US funder requirements is a FT job." comment - does anyone...
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Most funders state 10 years which is why you will see that figure. I've found that services are reluctant to commit to set time periods, but disciplinary repositories like UK Data Archive are over 40 years old so in practice they will have kept data far longer than 10 years.
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Sarah Jones replied to Lucy N
If you're writing a DMP for your research project, your university may review it for you. See if there's a Research Data Management team locally. Otherwise, services like the OpenAIRE helpdesk should be able to help if you are in Europe or national teams like DCC and RDNL, or disciplinary data centres.
You don't need to publish your DMP, but it can be good...
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Sarah Jones replied to Virginia Wilson
@BillCorey I like the commitment to review!
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Sarah Jones replied to DIGITAL B
Yes @LindaWagner @BillCorey versioning is important to ensure you understand the status of the data at each given point in time (e.g. raw, processed) and to know which copy you need to use
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Sarah Jones replied to Sophie Roy
Definitely good to create things in digital form first to save work, and also to clearly licence outputs
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Sarah Jones replied to Linda Wagner
Yes, I think this is one of the biggest challenges with respect to DMPs. The framing of them as part of a grant application which is then not referred to again suggests they are purely administrative. Until we connect DMPs to their implementation it will be hard to shift this culture and derive more benefits for researchers.
I was really impressed with the...
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Sarah Jones replied to Lisa Blanshard
Great comment. It's easy to overlook preservation
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Sarah Jones replied to Vanessa Leo Lopez
I agree and repositories play a key role here. Users don't always think about licensing data clearly so they should be prompted to when sharing.
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Sarah Jones replied to Bill Corey
Metadata was indeed found to be the major weakness in a US study when staff from several unis reviewed DMPs to target support services.
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Sarah Jones replied to Maria Vivas-Romero
These questions are not too basic at all. Getting into the detail of what will be shared, how, when and with whom is key. Some researchers may feel they can't share as data are about human subjects, but they could be anonymised, aggregated or shared under an agreement.
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Sarah Jones replied to Michael Foster
Great summary Michael!
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Sarah Jones replied to Philipp Conzett
Yes, definitely. These all come from DMPs required at application stage. We intentionally kept examples short so you didn't have too much to read, but actual projects would need more detail
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Sarah Jones replied to Lesley Mostert
Perfect, thanks Simon. Good to know we can edit that
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@LesleyMostert Some unis have implemented DMP requirements for their PhD or Masters students for this reason. Young researchers are more receptive to new concepts and if their supervisor has to review/approve their DMP, they learn in a roundabout way ;-)
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Good point @DIGITALB We'll offer ways to do the exercise without signing up to tools
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Yes, many unis have found DMPs to be great conversation starters and educational tools. You can use the process as a way to explain about institutional services and offer support in general
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Sarah Jones replied to Vanessa Leo Lopez
Exactly @LindaWagner @LauraCagnazzo Commercial enterprises like Elsevier have bought up lots of systems across the research lifecycle. I think this is something we need to be mindful of when making deals on new procurements. http://knowledgegap.org/index.php/sub-projects/rent-seeking-and-financialization-of-the-academic-publishing-industry/preliminary-findings/
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Sarah Jones replied to Linda Wagner
I think it's quite a low percentage - c.20% at a guess. Some unis have good services now but ordinarily it's difficult to get access to networked drives for externals. You have to get them registered as visitors or there isn't a clear process. This is why lots of researchers revert to dropbox, googledrive or other easy and free solutions
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Sarah Jones replied to David Haddican
Thanks for the insights David. Lots of governments are driving data sharing and reuse. It would be great to get more stories on the reuse and impact to evidence these benefits
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Sarah Jones replied to Jhonny Garcia
Love this! GIGO
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Sarah Jones replied to Samuel Owusu-Ansah
There are tools that can check for plagarism but I think teaching good citation practice so people reference sources properly and get impact for the data shared is more constructive
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@LeightonChristiansen Puttign reuse so early is to raise awareness that you don't always have to create new data
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The lifecycle is similar but some of the methods you use may be different during to scale e.g. how you transfer data or move compute to data
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The two should align but they are slightly different. A research lifecycle looks at things more form the perspective of a researcher e.g. ideas, data creation, data analysis etc whereas this thinks a bit more about the services needed to support the data in each of these stages
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Really nice summary
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Excellent!
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Sarah Jones made a comment
Thanks for the comment all. It's great to hear you have found this informative and engaging
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Hi Kamal. It's worth trying to get IT, ethics and research office involved in your discussions as they will also be speaking to researchers about data
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Sarah Jones replied to Maria Vivas-Romero
Great summary Maria!
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Sarah Jones replied to Alvaro Ortiz
I think funders are always resistant to enforcing rules. For institutions this may be a more sensible approach. Ultimately the uni is liable / responsible so if there's a big financial risk or reputational damage you want to find any way possible that drives behaviour change
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Sarah Jones replied to Sarah H
Some data centers like the UK Data Service definitely do and many repositories have altmetrics or simple download counts in place but that doesn't tell you much about the 'how' of reuse.
It's always hard to get info on reuse but if you know who you users are (e.g. if they register) then you can gather info from them. Some schemes like the Dutch Data Prize...
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Sarah Jones replied to Abdullahi Fadhalu
Great to hear! Glad you're enjoying it
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Sarah Jones replied to Winnie Schats
Yes, it can often help to separate data management and data sharing as management benefits the individual in terms of helping them find and understand their own content, whereas sharing will always benefit others as well.
I gave a talk a couple of years ago which has some thoughts on how Open, FAIR and RDM intersect which may be useful. See slides...
