THEO SIMON: I don’t like the word spiritual, just because of the way it’s been used so much that it’s become one of those words it’s hard to know what it means anymore. But for me, it’s been like a spiritual path or discipline, because when I’m on the front line - by which I mean any protest site where there are people trying to do something else or trying to move me - I have to get into an awareness where I am not treating the person who’s coming against me with anything but respect. I think that nonviolence isn’t just a tactic, nonviolence is an attitude, which is that I respect you as another human being.
It’s only because of circumstances that you’ve ended up in a yellow jacket, and I’ve ended up on this side of the protest. I have complete faith in that. On an existential level, I think that’s just the truth. I do not believe any human being is greater or lesser than me, because we are all essentially… we’re all animals, and we’re all connected to a bigger living process. We’re not separate from it. We are actually brothers and sisters in a very real sense. There’s no way of… and we’re actually brothers and sisters to every other living thing. These are objective realities, but they’re also, I think, an experience that we can have.
We do have to reconnect, which is what religion means, I think, [LATIN],, to reconnect, re-bind, something like that. And I have thought about this a lot recently, because I thought in a way, we need a new religion. But that’s not true, because religion is not going to work. That’s over now. That’s a period of our development where we have these big, monotheistic religions. Now, we’ve found there’s no room left. We’re all on the same planet. But that’s not to diss it, because it’s OK to have a framework and a story, because that’s all I’ve got, a framework and a story within which we can live. And we need that, and we need these meta stories. We need this big meaning.
There is a bigger entity. Objectively, it’s like we could call it the biosphere. So science now, we can say it’s the biosphere exists. I don’t think scientists necessarily really grasp what that means. I don’t really exist, except this is a temporary, this is a process occurring here. Cells are being created and recreated and falling off all the time. This isn’t still. I’m not a solid being. The water’s flowing in and out, the air’s flowing in and out, the earth stuff is coming in as food and going out as excrement. Everything’s just happening here, and this is holding itself together as organisms do for a short period of time.
What it is that animates that and whether there’s a being beyond that, I really find that hard to even - I live as if there is. I have a communication sometimes. I know that religious people do too. And yet, that isn’t for them embodied in the world around them necessarily. They might have it more abstractly or more somewhere else. I don’t know where Allah or God is for people. But for me, there’s a spirit, there’s sometimes an entity, but I don’t know if that’s a part of me, if that’s a part of my consciousness, but I’d say that there is an awareness which is at the heart of every single atom.
There is a beingness, and that is in me, and my consciousness, my awareness, comes from that place. I think the beauty of our situation is, previously, a member of the government could stand up and say, while we all acknowledge that we need to take better care of our environment, we have to do so in a way that doesn’t compromise our other need for economic growth. And you could say that, and it’s like, most people would think, yeah, that kind of makes sense. But now, it’s so obvious that that model will kill the planet, you can’t get away with that anymore. We just have to do it in the right way. We don’t put it off anymore.
We’ve kind of put love and caring and religious values to one side. They’re a matter of personal conscience. Oh, he’s a Muslim. Oh. Be respectful of him. He’s a vegetarian, because he doesn’t think we should kill animals. So these things where we kind of put it in one place, the real world now has to become the place where we’re trying to embody love and care for each other and for the world around us, or we are finished. I only care that you show respect for me, I show respect for you, and you attempt to live in a way that shows respect for all life. And that you realise that that is your responsibility.
That’s all I care about, because I think if we do that, something new will emerge.