Pamela R
Retiree
Location East Midlands
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Pamela R made a comment
Apparently why there are several rivers in the UK called Avon is because when the Romans pointed to a river and asked its name they were told Avon, which was the Celtic for the word river.
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For those asking why Mick Aston didn't have a Phd I believe his car, with all is research was broken into and stolen and he lost it all. Before the time of backing your work up on a usb stick or portable hard drive of course.
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Pamela R made a comment
Are we all supposed to be sitting here, beating our breasts and shouting mea culpa, mea culpa? The course was marketed under false pretences.
Glad I haven't paid for the course.
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First two weeks were really interesting. This week has been more of a rant.
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Pamela R replied to Janice Leonard
Ill-treatment of workers wasn't confined to foreign employees.
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Pamela R made a comment
Anyone else lost the will to live?
This week's content should form part of another course altogether.
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@DerrienAllen Don't even go to the one on British Imperialism - you will go and shoot yourself out of guilt.
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@PaulGurbutt By which time I can't be bothered due to this week's skewed content
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Have they asked for input from the leaders of BLM from their mansion in the US?
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So all this targeted advertising specially relates to York does it? No, advertising is always targeted, whatever is being sold. Course really has lost the plot.
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I really think this course has a very misleading title. The hidden history of York is much more than suggested in this week's programme and started long before Rowntrees. Perhaps it should be reworked and retitled A modern history of York through industry and exploitation since the Industrial Revolution.
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Pamela R replied to Jane Faire
I think the course as gone off at a tangent. A whole third of the course devoted to one industry in the whole city over 1,000 years? The wool and cloth industries, Roman York, the railway industries haven't been mentioned.
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@PamPeacock At the time the gollies were banned, the marketing boss was black and said his daughter loved collecting them!
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Can't see the video
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It wasn't just foreign workers who were exploited, factory workers, mills workers, miners in this country didn't have the best of living conditions.
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So some good did come then - the building of infrastructure such as roads and railways. Don't forget that side of colonialisation in the efforts to be woke
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We were taught the "hagiography" of Richard the Lionheart while in reality he was a war mongering b*****d. And we haven't even got round to the evils of the Roman Catholic Inquisition.
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I hope people remember that it wasn't just Britain who had an empire, the Spanish Empire was guilty of effective genocide and massive plundering of wealth from the Southern American countries. The Dutch in South Africa, the Portuguese in the Far East and in West Africa. the Arabs in North Africa and Spain.We ourselves became part of what was effectively the...
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Expelling the Jews meant not having to pay back any loans owed to them! I think much of it was for immoral economic rather than religious reasons.
Much the same reason that Philip IV persecuted and effectively exterminated the Knights Templar. He owed them money and wanted their wealth.
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Pamela R replied to Tracey Harrison
I like the idea of being a "fly on the wall" at different periods in history, just to see what things were really like, or what really happened. Doesn't mean I would actually like to live there, I like my comfort too much.
And you forget to mention a glass of wine to go with the cheese!
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Well, I've seen plenty of footballers with two left feet! :)
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Perhaps it got tangled in weeds, it still happens to humans today.
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Sounds a bit of a dangerous place to be wandering round in!
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A bow drill
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Pamela R replied to Judy Harvey
By accident I would expect, possibly went knapping?
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Pamela R replied to Geraldine McGill
And for warming beds in much later years!
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Pamela R replied to Lynda White
Or in the book trade and libraries Cloggs and Shawls. They had their own section in the library where I worked. The Mills & Boons were called pinkies.
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Quite. Mind you, a few men still have the same attitude today
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How patronising.
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Pamela R replied to Julie Turley
'Twas ever thus.
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Pamela R replied to Patricia Eve
And a great stroke of luck that the master saw just at the right time.
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Pamela R replied to Natalia Waaijer
"Seventeen deaths in 22 years and only one resulting from an accident, I guess for those days, that would be an admirable record."
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Wouldn't mind being a fly on the wall on many times in history, but that is not the same as wanting to live then. Primitive dwellings, primitive medical knowledge, etc.
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Doubt it would last long enough for us ever to find out!
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Mine too - my starting salary in 1966 was £445 p. a.
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@DianaMonahan Thnak you, I will have a look.
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Well I would trust a worker's poem more than I would trust the output of some of today's "journalists" that is for sure!
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Some things don't change much, whistleblowers still have to be brave
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Cheap labour and arrogant owners?
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@MalcolmTattersall So true, I think of the G in GCE meaning general - which gave is a wider but shallower knowledge than what seems to happen now, more a deeper concentration on a smaller area. Not sure if that is good or bad for up to 16 year olds. Time to concentrate more after that.
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For comparison, when looking through some old ledgers at the bank where I worked, we found a note saying that a new clerk had been appointed in around 1910 at an annual salary of £20.
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And automation continues apace all over the world.
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Pamela R replied to Frances Togneri
@FrancesTogneri Flour dust?
Both my grandparents worked in the mills and lived into their 90s
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Pamela R replied to Melinda Jane Phillips
@MelindaJanePhillips Tell me about it , I was one of those clerks until 2000. You were no longer a bank clerk but a seller.
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@GrahamPearson Thanks Graham they were really interesting.
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Hi Catherine, many of my ancestors worked in the cotton mills in and around Burnley. My grandparents works there for decades, and in fact my grandfather worked in the mill as a cutlooker until his retirement in around 1962.
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Pamela R replied to David Doran
@DavidDoran See above, you beat me to it!
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@MalcolmTattersall What I can remember of Dundee from geography lessons at school many moons ago - jute and marmalade.
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Pamela R replied to Jenny Kwee
And that no threads had broken!
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l wonder how long it took to set up the looms, of either type with the warp and how it was done,perhaps we will find out. But I did find this:
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Cause a fuss and you would probably be sacked an blacklisted.
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Not sure about that Linda, it might have been an advantage.
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Reminds me of time and motion studies
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My first reaction to that was "who paid him to write that," my second was "try it for a day and see what you think then."
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I wonder how he would have got on with the union leader in the 20th century, and they with him?
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Sounds a bit like a modern day politician!
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I think you might be right, I remember a programme presented by Tony Robinson which investigated the plight of these children and the awful dangers they faced in working in the mill at Quarry Bank
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I was born in Burnley, which was a centre for cotton mills and at least two of my grandparents worked in the industry. In fact my grandfather took me into the mills where he worked as a cutlooker in the 60s, someone who inspected the woven cloth for faults. The noise in the actual mill was deafening, so much so that you could barely hear yourself think - no...
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Pamela R replied to Charles Williams
Totally agree. I often wonder how many times archaeology has been discovered then quietly reburied during development.
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I had the same problem as others, so I enlarged the video to full screen and swapped to HD. Then I paused it each time the writing in the bottom right hand corner was complete to give me time to study things more closely
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Pamela R replied to Bill Grigg
Totally agree, we have no entitlement to see a skeleton. Also that person has not given permission for his/her skeleton to be displayed in this way. And, of course, display precludes the burial he/she probably would have wanted.
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Two reasons there why Richard III was reburied in Leicester - it near to where he was found, and the fact that his feet are still down there somewhere, because they were missing when his skeleton was found. No doubt if the Yorkists had been able to recover his body from the battlefield they would have taken it back to York. But the Lancastrians might well...
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Pamela R replied to Mary Hartley
@SallyThomson You are right, it was his brother Edward IV and father who were Dukes of York
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Pamela R replied to tony carney
If there is now ownership of a corpse how can family "claim" a body? Just a thought.
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Perhaps a case of "I'm not sure what I think now .... as when it came to it you wouldn't be feeling anything! :)
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Pamela R replied to Andrew Millard
@AndrewMillard Or causing problems with an ensuing court case in the event of a suspicious death?
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This is an absolute minefield. If we excavate bones should we take them away for study and if so how long after they have died is it acceptable to do so, 50, 100, 200 years old, or so long after the death of any living near relatives.
But here we all are studying a course about the remains of the soldiers of Dunbar so we must think that at some stage it...
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@DerekCharlton How thoroughly unpc that is in our times. I loved Laramie - Robert Fuller - sighs!
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Pamela R replied to Eve Stephens
Those higher up in the Church who set the tone and practises have a lot more to answer for. Going back to the Crusades, many Popes thought it was fine to kill anyone who was not a Christian, almost a duty. Hardly a Christlike attitude is it?
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I rather like the sound of William, particularly in respect f his response to the pastor.
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Pamela R replied to Lesley Hadley-Lloyd
@LesleyHadley-Lloyd They hadn't heard of pollution back then!
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@FrancesTogneri Couldn't agree more.
And they couldn't turn a profit despite free land, copious amounts of "free" resources and cheap labour Serves them right!
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Pamela R replied to Frances Togneri
@FrancesTogneri Well they did it for Richard III and he died in 1485!
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Didn't quite a few WWII prisoners, especially Italian, stay in the UK after the end of the war?
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Pamela R replied to Yvonne Read
Or they didn't like the wives they had left behind!!
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@NeilMacpherson Nooooooooo.........
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I have wondered before, how many soldiers died of dysentery compared to how many were killed in battle. Henry V is one of the most famous victims.
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No, that was just hooliganism, not necessity
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Pamela R replied to Beatriz Merchán Díaz
@BeatrizMerchánDíaz But they were all killed by fellow European/Brits
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Chaos, resentment, filth
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Quite a few of the Jewish prisoners released from the death camps died as a result of suddenly eating too much and their bodies were to weak to copy - the ultimate awful irony.
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That is why it is known for prisoners to be killed.
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It always seems funny to me that men going into battle claimed God was on their side.
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Pamela R replied to Trish Carter
@AndrewMillard Not as fast as Henry V's archers!
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Billeting was still practised in WWII - my father was billeted with a family in Hampshire for a while when he was in the RAF
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Pamela R replied to Beatriz Merchán Díaz
Edward II Richard II Richard III?
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"In the battles that followed, proportionately more British lives were lost than during the First World War. "
Difficult to believe.
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Pamela R replied to Bob Schofield
@DavidBrown Would it help to turn on the captions?
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The background music on tv programmes sometimes makes it impossible to hear what the actors are saying - drives me mad.
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Pamela R replied to Sally Thomson
Henry V (as he became) was badly wounded in the face at the Battle of Shrewsbury when he was only 16
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Pamela R replied to Charles Williams
@CharlesWilliams You could open this step in another tab and listen to it whilst looking at the map on the original tab
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Archaeology - every developer's nightmare!
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Pamela R replied to Julia Elliott
In the making or in the discovering?
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Pamela R replied to Margriet Hofman
@JaneWhitehead I think I would have preferred to risk staying impure!
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Pamela R replied to Margriet Hofman
@HughRobertson I'll take that as a compliment!
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Human nature doesn't alter much I am afraid, just that there is more chance of being found out these days.
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Spooky!
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@MichaelScott Me too - I have warned my executor that if I am buried I will come back to haunt him!
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@RuthBrewis Sounds a bit suspicious, had you got sombody in mind!!