Adam Kosa
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Adam Kosa replied to Andrea ZARATE
As for English monolingual dictionaries, I would recommend The Free Dictionary, which I think one of the freely accessible dictionary out there. It also has French and Spanish, and some specialised dictionaries in medicine, finance and legal. It is based on the American Heritage Dictionary so it is better for American English than British English. For British...
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It might also depends on when was the book translated. I am not sure about German market, but In Hungarian, it was a common practice in the are of Cold War to localise proper names in novels, which sometimes has some interesting or humorous results.
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Adam Kosa replied to Jessica Shepherd
I am wondering how much the word evokes military context. In Hungarian, which is my native language, we have the word "bajtársiasság", which literally means "partnership in trouble, difficulties or danger". Strongly has military connotations, but I found that it also express loyalty, a certain sentiment between those men, who experience any kind of hardship....
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For your question, linguistically speaking, Gaelic or Irish is a branch of Celtic language family. Other Celtic languages, for example, are Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Cornish.
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Adam Kosa replied to Edith Floszmann
I am not an expert on the topic, but I did some quick research on the topic, and it turns out, in the case of Africa, we might better speak of lingua francas, in plural. Although the language of the colonisers still have their position (Arabic, French, English), it seems that Swahili is aspiring to be a new lingua franca of the continent. Here is an article on...
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Adam Kosa replied to Astri Anna
You are welcome. :) I hope you will enjoy it.
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Adam Kosa replied to Astri Anna
One of the films I would recommend and watched is the A Translator. Here is a link about the movie:
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@SandraF. , I also recommend trying out translating TED Talks, which , I think, a great place to start. They even have a mentor program now, where experienced translators guide new members and share their expertise. If you are interested, you can check out this link:
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On a more practical level on the topic, I am starting to see more and more companies using MT systems to aid translation process, and I think it is inevitable that some of our translation solutions are affected by it, which can already be a certain type of adaptation to AI. If we extrapolate this idea and imagine a scenario where more people will read machine...
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There are some very good points here, and obviously it would be difficult to see a direct connection in how etymologies of words affect our current thinking and approaches to certain issues. But the words we use certainly matter (otherwise we would not fight, or even kill each other, over words). And regarding translation, although it is true that each job...
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Adam Kosa replied to David Peachey
@JacobLloyd As a Hungarian myself, I can confirm that. It was a great hit when I was in school (good times), but I did not know it had such a fame in the US, @DavidPeachey. Thanks for sharing it. Here is one song from the other side, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tzpkSYYYYM , it is a Hungarian misheard lyrics of a Brazilian song, Ai Se Eu Te Pego. (I...
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We cover more of the question of machine translation later in the fourth week, but certainly, this is one of the central issue in the field. For me, what is interesting is that we often think of the replacement of human translator and how we can train a machine to produce human-like language. But what if we look at the other side, and think of how humans can...
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Adam Kosa made a comment
Hello everyone, my name is Adam, and I am one of the mentor who is helping you through the course. I am graduating this year from MA Translation Studies in Cardiff, UK. Currently, I am trying out myself as a freelancer specialising in audiovisual translation from English to Hungarian. I am really hope you will be enjoying the upcoming few weeks with us, and we...
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Well said, Jill, I can completely agree with that. At the end of the day this is all matters, whether the audience are able to enjoy art to the fullest.
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Adam Kosa replied to [Learner left FutureLearn]
You are welcome, Anna. And thank you for the suggestion. I will forward it to the team, and see what we can do.
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Adam Kosa replied to Vera Moraes
and what about Bollywood? Have you heard about it?
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Adam Kosa replied to Isequiel Afonso
Thank you, Isequiel, we very much appreciate your contributions and enjoyed reading your comments too.
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This gardening metaphor might be more common in some languages. In Hungarian, we use commonly the phrase 'átültetni', which means something like "replant" or "repot", when we talk about translations. I am wondering if other languages use similar expressions.
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Adam Kosa replied to Gabrielle Lewkowicz
Do not worry! It is certainly not an easy task, and I think it might be a benchmark of a good text that if we think it is untranslatable, making us learning a whole language just to be able understand it.
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I think our own biases are often not really our own but bias is inherently part of any mediation and language itself. A text in a neutral language would be a meaningless text. We often say translators should be faithful to the source text, but I do not think it is what they are faithful to. It is always something else. To their client, to their different...
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Especially if you think that non verbal communication is not always universal. But yes, it is certainly a problematic and complex question.
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But it was just an assumption, I do not have any evidence, but it is certainly deserves attention how the strive for quality can sometimes be overridden by the importance of social relations.
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Exactly, @KarinMarty ! The Austro-Hungarian was, indeed, a real melting pot of cultures. And we got so isolated from our language relatives that many people still do not think that our language has anything to do with Finnish.
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These are very interesting ideas, indeed. It makes me think how the technology used to mediate the translations and the translations themselves get intertwined, affecting the aesthetic experience. Could these technologies superimposed on the originals any way transform the originals themselves (or at least how we interpret them)? It is certainly different when...
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Adam Kosa replied to [Learner left FutureLearn]
Hi @Anna❤️ , There are several ways to go about it. Some translators or clients still use Excel sheets (this is usually called glossary) to record terms. Others may use Microsoft Access or other database management software. A database for terminology is called term base, and this is what is built into CAT tools. For example, SDL Trados Studio has the SDL...
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And I would just add, that this might true for other languages, there is nothing unique about Hungarian, and one could think of a language as a patchwork of other languages, where translation might be the operation, in a sort of mangling fashion, that turns the different colours of the blocks in the patchwork into one colour, or make them less distinguishable.
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I think the connections between languages can go far beyond language families. For example, @HelenGräwert , in the article you shared, it says Hungarian kept most of its etymons, but if one look at the language more closely, we can see much more diversity. In a more or less chronological order, there are Finno-Ugric, Old Turkic, Iranian, Ottoman Turkish,...
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Adam Kosa replied to Maya Shvartsman
Hi Maya! We are too glad to have you here and hope you will be enjoying the course and find it useful. :)
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You're welcome :) My country is Hungary (not mine though, I am from it).
And relating to this whole issue, I was also thinking, but I do not have any evidence, that there could be some sort of corruption of commissioning these translations. At times, the translator's competence is less important, than their personal connections. In Hungary, a few years...
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Thanks, @SergiyShklyar , the dictionaries you mentioned are indeed useful. I would just add a few other sources:
https://leme.library.utoronto.ca/ - this is the Lexicons of Early Modern English, which is large database of different monolingual and bilingual dictionaries, glossaries, encyclopaedias etc. from 1475 to...
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Brilliant idea! and indeed, it would be not without problems. I am just wondering, for example, would you do copy the painting as well or just take a photo of it?
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@AdrianaRodriguezSantana , you made a good point of that how conveying meaning clashes with being neutral, and it can happen in many cases. As @QipengGao said, words themselves can express emotions (they are not really empty shells), and sometimes even the most detached and neutral speaking voice with a rightly chosen words can have the biggest emotional...
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It is an brilliant parallel. If we think of the messenger similar to translators. Since both carrying messages different borders, and they make it possible to make a bridge between those who otherwise find it difficult or not possible to come in direct contact. It is especially interesting if we look at how translation itself often perceived as a message...
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Thank you for the recommendation, Anna. This certainly sounds something worth to watch for those interested in the issue.
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Not too bad, Linda. Translating a poem from the 17th century is never easy. For the expression "jiggled a hossy" others tried to give some solutions, but you can try to figure it out from the context. But I will give a hint. Many of us think that "hossy" means something like "horse", probably from the phonetic resemblance. The other thing is the word "horse"...
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Adam Kosa replied to Sara Mongelli
The part about personal opinion and political affiliations reminds me of a well-spread image of a translator as a machine or as a conduit or a "slave on another man's plantation", to bring in the metaphor we already learnt. I am wondering if in your context, is it always apply? Is there any examples of transgression of this part of the code of conduct?
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Adam Kosa replied to Joëlle Boehm
Well, it is certainly depends, again, how we see translation. So far, we look at it as a professional activity, but we can also see it as a phenomenon that is part of our everyday lives. This is why the translation diary, for example. The viewpoint might lead to further questions of, for example, what does it mean to have a good linguistic and cultural...
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You can call me Adam :) you are welcome, and we, too, very much appreciate your contributions.
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Thanks, Helen. I think this low quality translations is partly tied to what you just said about locality. Even though, we might think of web as a borderless space, it is still linked to the physical space from where the user access to it or what the actual page ownership is. Translation most of the time works as transporting language from its own locality to...
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"Jiggled a hossy" might mean "steal a horse" as Helen earlier mentioned, which can be true if you look at the context, but of course, in translation, it can be anything that makes sense in the target text.
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Thanks, Helen. These are highly valid points. Translation and space will be relevant our discussion in the upcoming weeks. And just out of curiosity, do you happen to haven some examples for this low quality translations?
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Thanks, José. Nevertheless it is always interesting to see languages other than English :)
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This is indeed a problematic question since language is always intimately tied with different values, beliefs, identities etc. Some people might not be even aware how deeply encoded in language a culture's worldview, affecting all the way our individual thought. In some cases, this could be more explicit, in others, we subscribe to those beliefs and values...
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Nice work! And you are right. Each answer for your questions makes a different translation. I would just add that in the final line the 'we' might only mean a generic you, referring the people in general, so one could expand the sentence as something like 'we all know that in jail there is only water to drink and no alcohol'. And @HelenGräwert, it seems a...
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Adam Kosa replied to Claudia Kern
I think the reason behind this is that Google often gives you results specific to your location and both 'café' and 'Kaffee' can refer to coffee shops as well, and the images might display only the types of coffees these companies sell. So be careful, Google is not always gives you the best results.
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Hi Josber, I found an interesting article dealing with phonetic translation. (It tells about the Humpy-Dumpy as well.) The phenomenon also referred as 'homophonic translation' or 'soromimi'. This latter term comes from Japanese, where English subtitles imitating the source text of video clips was become a popular genre. The article mentions some other...
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Yes, Isequiel. It refers to that.
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Thank you, Ryan for sharing the video. It truly fascinating what our brains can do. I am non-native English speaker but it seemed to be working for me. Interestingly, I noticed some cross-linguistic influence regarding the sound. In Hungarian (my native language) there is less different between the consonant "B" and "P" (voiced-voiceless), and also as when the...
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Adam Kosa made a comment
Just a quick reminder that we are translating intralingually, in other words, into English. Of course, if you feel like, you can translate it into any other languages you want. In this case, it would be great to gives us a back-translation (a fairly literal translation into English) so everybody could see and understand your choices.
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Hi, José, could you give us a back-translation (a very close, literal translation) into English? Unfortunately, not all of us speaks Spanish, but a back-translation could help us understand your choices.
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Hi Micha, sorry to hear that you did not manage to post your image. Let us know if we could help with that.
But for your image, I think, the exact distance might be not too relevant here, can be anywhere between 1.5-2 metres. They probably used the image of a bicycle because it can be seen as an important cultural concept. We all know Dutch people cycle...
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Adam Kosa replied to Svetlana Sim
Hello, Svetlana. Indeed, translation is more complex than it seems. We will learn more about intralingual and intersemiotic translation this week and beyond. So stay tuned.
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Adam Kosa made a comment
Warm welcome to all of you on our course. I, myself, as a mentor, have been looking forward to our course. I am excited to hear your thoughts and experiences, and I hope you will be enjoying this journey too through the field of translation. I promise, there will be much to explore.
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I am not sure we send this in email but what I would suggest you is to check at Step 4.7 and your feedback should be appear there if you completed the previous step.
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Very well put, Rebecca. I absolutely agree.
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Adam Kosa replied to Yumiko Hirata
Hi, Yumiko! Do not worry. We are all here and happy to help.
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Hi, Viviana! Are referring to Step 4.5, the translation brief review? What exactly happened?
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She is a wonderful and a very inspiring person, indeed. Thank you for sharing her story. :)
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It's wonderful, Natalia and thank you for joining us. We hope you will enjoy the course. :)
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@YuXuanJiang , You can say that, but can think of it in a broader or physical sense. Self-translator can mean someone who is refashioning their identity in the target culture they have migrated to. They build a new self, so to speak, through a new language and culture.
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@DominikaGralik , do you know how came into Polish? its etymology. I am just curious. Otherwise, nicely put. :)
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Milan Kundera would agree with your comment. He is among many authors who was very sensitive to the changes his translators made to rewrite the text for marketing purposes as you say, not respecting his style. The only thing is that being the author it was much easier for him to negotiate translation process, even though he said "translation is a nightmare."...
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I really like your idea of translanguaging here. I wonder what would be the audience think when they faced with this radical display of language contact and multilingualism.
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Adam Kosa replied to André Estevez
Yes, that's right, @DucLe and that's also true there is much more freedom in translating TV shows than specialised texts.
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Adam Kosa replied to André Estevez
Sometimes the one-to-one relationship between terms is not that clear-cut. Different researchers often use different terms and we can end up with synonyms. For example, in audiovisual translation, there is the term 'spotting', 'cueing', 'timing' which refer basically the same thing. Designating the in and out-time for each subtitle. I suppose in your example...
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I suppose 'openness' is an opposite of 'biased' which might imply a sort of impartiality as well. Actually, I found their Code of Conduct and they say about being impartial.
https://www.ciol.org.uk/sites/default/files/Code_5.pdf - Under 'Responsibilities to clients/employers.'
You might take a look at it.
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Adam Kosa replied to Rocio Dominguez
No worries. You can always turn on the captions if you are not sure about something or just check the transcript.
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Adam Kosa replied to Valeria Castellanos
Good to hear that you enjoyed the course, Valeria. There is no free at the moment but we extended the access to the course till 22 June 2020. Also, you can get the certificate anytime after the course.
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Hi, @HeshamTawfikIbrahiem , It is a style guide for a particular organisation or publisher.
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We are glad to hear that and good luck with your application! ;)
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Adam Kosa replied to Rocio Dominguez
She said 'intralingual' translation which is translating within a language. Youl'll find more about this type of translation in 1.13, while we will look at interlingual translation in 1.10. I hope this helped.
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Adam Kosa replied to [Learner left FutureLearn]
Üdv, Tamás! I hope you enjoy the course and good luck!
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Adam Kosa replied to Keenya Hofmaier
She is :)
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Adam Kosa replied to Isabel von Sassen
@IsabelvonSassen , well, if you wanted your text to work in a culture, where kiss is not an appropriate greetings, then you would change it probably something more acceptable, otherwise your audience may be outraged. Paradoxically, translation can both distance and bridge cultures.
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Adam Kosa replied to Keenya Hofmaier
@YuXuanJiang , it sounds interesting, and is it the same person we were just talking about?
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Hi @YuXuanJiang , unfortunately I have never ever learnt Chinese but I think Donovan gave us a bit of insight.
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I can absolutely agree @NdongoNdongoDodirodrigue :)
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Hi @HeshamTawfikIbrahiem , I can perfectly understand that but it may change in the future, who knows.
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Adam Kosa replied to Patrícia Frohlich
Wow! As a Hungarian, I have never heard about him. Thank you, Patrícia, I learned something new today.
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You're welcome.
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All right ;) @JacobLloyd
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I totally agree, it also depends on which context the interpreting takes place. However, it would be interesting to see how different or similar an illiterate interpreter from a literate one. This might be important since we know that acquiring literacy can significantly change the way we see the world.
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There is a great from one of our lead educator which can be a good starting point in exploring the topic:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/14781700.2012.701943?needAccess=true
Also, there is a book on the...
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Adam Kosa replied to Nelson Verástegui
I can't say anything about Spanish or French but in Hungarian, which is my native language, we usually just loan the term, translate it only phonetically and explain it with a footnote. Or if we translate it and the term might have not been used before, we place the original in brackets. The important thing is to make sure the given translation is referring to...
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@AfnanAli , you can read about intersemiotic translation in 1.13 and @JacobLloyd , I absolutely agree. I watched the film only once though, but I think the subtitler did an excellent job. Although, I do not remember anything peculiar. Do you have an example in mind? I might give the film a second go myself. I also enjoyed it very much. I was wondering how...
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Adam Kosa replied to Montserrat Botana
Thank you, @MontserratBotana
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Adam Kosa made a comment
Now it seems that we have come to the end of the course and we would like to thank you all for your participation and contribution. It was a great pleasure to see your engagment, reading your insightful comments and I believe we learnt as much as from you than you did from us. However, this is not a final goodbye. We may see some of you, here, in Cardiff or on...
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Adam Kosa replied to Keenya Hofmaier
That might be right. I heard the word malinchismo/a in Mexican Spansish which is used for a person who betray their own culture and preferring foreing expressions. But I am not a Spanish speaker, though.
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Adam Kosa replied to Isabel von Sassen
Yes, that would make more sense. Wel'll look into it. Thank you, Isabel.
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Adam Kosa replied to Keenya Hofmaier
Very well put, Keenya. We learn more about translanguaging on Week 3. Keep an eye out for that.
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Sad to hear that, Sharam. Let's hope that this will change in the future.
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Adam Kosa replied to Sara Gonçalves
I like the word "saudade". I don't speak portuguese but the sound of the word itself, as I pronounce it, evokes something eluvsive, as if you were trying to catch something that has already gone away. Beautiful.
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Hi @DonovanKelorii , it's a good question. In my opinion, if we look at it from an interpreter point of view, it could even be Language A or B, since you got the most important skills needed for an interpreter. These categories, however, might need to be updated to take into account those situations where the level of literacy is not crucial. There are much...
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Don't worry! Many of us are still here and it is not too late to be part of some of the great conversations we are having on the course.
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Exactly! This would be wonderful, I think. I always liked those initiatives where the audience is not a passive spectator but an active creator of artwork itself.
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@GiuliaBecchi , Hello, Giulia, exaclty, this is what I was saying and you explained it very well.
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@PeterMa remember you have to start the video then right click on the video, as I said. Otherwise, it downloads only the webpage. As for the youtube songs, I might say that it is out of the scope of the course but you can find many sites and software that will able to do it for you.
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Adam Kosa replied to Carrie Power
That's a very good idea. I often seek help in a translator's group on social media when I am in search for the right term. They are usually very helpful. I found it fascinating sometimes that how quickly you are able to find the equivalent even in a field where we do not have much expertise.
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I think some of us will keep coming back to their favourite parts but see you next week!
